Andy Onchan Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Cambon said: The seawall is actually fine. It is the build up of sand along the entire length, and lack of groins / chines that has focused the power of the easterly to that area. If they spent a few grand shifting the sand back down the beach, and allow the currently sunken seawall to do its job, the problem would go away virtually overnight! ETA, I was on Douglas Head the other day and the rise in the level of sand causing the problem is clearly visible. Take a look next time you are up there. You can see how it focuses the waves. Removing the sand along the promenade ain't going to stop this from happening again: https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/council-to-start-work-on-wrecked-gardens-after-over-eight-months-557650 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Dave Hedgehog said: What is the kids park gonna have in that makes it cost 700 grand? Pay-per-play. It's the future of cutting-edge, technology-led, tactile, sensory-overloaded playground experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 I went into my fishmongers today to buy some Manx caught herring , they had none ! and the staff said they were very small almost like pilchards , he commented they would probably finish up going for bait if we are paying £150k to fishermen to catch an endangered species at spawning time , then someone should question the departments environmental policies , its just a few years ago this same department gave permission to a fisherman to catch a few Mullet for bait , and surprise surprise they caught almost everyone , now we rarely see this beautiful surface feeding fish in our harbours , if MHK Heywood is not aware of this then there are a few conservationists who will put her right on a few things , lets see the departments fisheries management and business plan and where herring actually sit , it will be interesting to see if Deverau's have purchased any to make mini kippers ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDave Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Andy Onchan said: The biggest concern Douglas Ratepayers should have is whether the garden walls are up to getting another pounding from the next big easterly hitting the prom. What happened to the supposed work that DOI were going to do on strengthening/adding a seawall to mitigate serious overtopping down by the gardens?? Seems a bit premature to me if the seawall issue hasn't been done yet. Does anyone fact check anything before they post here? The sea wall will be in before this work is done. Edited October 13, 2023 by CrazyDave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDave Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Cambon said: The seawall is actually fine. It is the build up of sand along the entire length, and lack of groins / chines that has focused the power of the easterly to that area. If they spent a few grand shifting the sand back down the beach, and allow the currently sunken seawall to do its job, the problem would go away virtually overnight! ETA, I was on Douglas Head the other day and the rise in the level of sand causing the problem is clearly visible. Take a look next time you are up there. You can see how it focuses the waves. By the Sunken gardens? It’s nothing to do with buildup or groynes and the gardens have been hammered by storms most year for as long as any of us have been alive. Which is why planning for the wall has been granted, funds allocated and a contractor awarded the job of building it in the New Year. Edited October 13, 2023 by CrazyDave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 25 minutes ago, Omobono said: I went into my fishmongers today to buy some Manx caught herring , they had none ! and the staff said they were very small almost like pilchards , he commented they would probably finish up going for bait if we are paying £150k to fishermen to catch an endangered species at spawning time , then someone should question the departments environmental policies , its just a few years ago this same department gave permission to a fisherman to catch a few Mullet for bait , and surprise surprise they caught almost everyone , now we rarely see this beautiful surface feeding fish in our harbours , if MHK Heywood is not aware of this then there are a few conservationists who will put her right on a few things , lets see the departments fisheries management and business plan and where herring actually sit , it will be interesting to see if Deverau's have purchased any to make mini kippers ? The Fishermen are Happy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 27 minutes ago, CrazyDave said: Does anyone fact check anything before they post here? The sea wall will be in before this work is done. I did ask the question. Where can I find the answer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDave Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 53 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: I did ask the question. Where can I find the answer? Phone the DOI. Look at the planning application or you could just take my word for it having spoken to someone who is due to be working on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 minute ago, CrazyDave said: Phone the DOI. Look at the planning application or you could just take my word for it having spoken to someone who is due to be working on it OK, you win. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cueey Lewis And The News Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Mercenary said: Bit of a fallacy this - Douglas are not making a one off purchase and obviously have no control over interest rates. They will have a capital programme where they are spending millions on average across all their schemes (housing/parks/etc). It's not feasible to build everything once every 10 years when interest rates are lower and then sit on your hands for the other 9 years. Well considering that the last we heard the insurers were supposedly paying for what was said to be storm damage https://gef.im/news/politics/prom-walls-finally-look-set-to-be-repaired-25788/ But now it seems that the ratepayers are borrowing over a million quid instead to get additional work done timing most certainly seems to be an issue. I wonder if the insurers failed to pay out any claim? But the work has needed doing for at least a year and is now being done at a time when the borrowing costs will be very high. Edited October 13, 2023 by Cueey Lewis And The News Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 6 hours ago, Andy Onchan said: Removing the sand along the promenade ain't going to stop this from happening again: https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/council-to-start-work-on-wrecked-gardens-after-over-eight-months-557650 Actually, it will. Go up Douglas Head and have a look. You can see how the waves are focused. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 5 hours ago, CrazyDave said: By the Sunken gardens? It’s nothing to do with buildup or groynes and the gardens have been hammered by storms most year for as long as any of us have been alive. Which is why planning for the wall has been granted, funds allocated and a contractor awarded the job of building it in the New Year. Go up Douglas Head and look. Anybody can see how the sand has built up by the War Memorial and focuses the power of the sea at that one specific area. It is obvious! Without doubt! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cueey Lewis And The News Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 This is almost the most miserable thing I’ve seen ever https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/douglas-council-to-charge-for-memorial-plaque-renewal-every-ten-years/ Why not just charge more in the first place rather than enforce renewal after 10 years? Surely the whole purpose of a memorial is that you want it up for more than 10 years? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Braddan commissioner’s want to change to twice weekly refuse like DBC but have discovered that contract runs to 3/2025 for weekly collection! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 23 minutes ago, Banker said: Braddan commissioner’s want to change to twice weekly refuse like DBC but have discovered that contract runs to 3/2025 for weekly collection! Why would anyone want a collection twice a week? Douglas do it fortnightly, ie once every two weeks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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