Gladys Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Well not the final word. Is it really not time that Douglas Borough Council recognized the groundswell of public opinion against this reduction in the refuse collection service. Its clearly not just a few malcontents protesting. The implications of this change are clear. Rubbish left out on the streets, Civil amenity sites having to close due to lack of capacity. Post Christmas the countryside may be awash with Amazon cardboard parcels. Can they not just say “ sorry we got it wrong, we will revert back to the way it was” And those who feel they only need fortnightly collections can do their bit by only putting their bins out only fortnightly. I would agree if I didn't suspect there has been a degree of obstinacy. As I have said a few times, I experienced a change to segregation of recycling and fortnightly collections (recycling and other waste alternating each week). There was no gathering of opinion or visits to help identify how you could modify your habits to suit, we were just given a recycling bin one week and told this is how it is to happen from now on. We were a family of 4, with one child still in nappies, and had 2 step children staying part of the week also. We never had an overflowing bin and it just worked. But, the major difference was that all the recycling went into the recycling wheelie bin to be sorted somewhere else. Glass could not be put in that bin and had to be taken to bottle banks. So it was easier than finding somewhere to stack the recycling crates we have here. Having said that, apart from having somewhere to store the boxes and the rather poor covers, the system works OK for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, hissingsid said: The DBC are reducing a service which ratepayers have already paid for this is the point in question. They would say they are still collecting your rubbish, just they require it to be segregated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Well not the final word. Is it really not time that Douglas Borough Council recognized the groundswell of public opinion against this reduction in the refuse collection service. Its clearly not just a few malcontents protesting. The implications of this change are clear. Rubbish left out on the streets, Civil amenity sites having to close due to lack of capacity. Post Christmas the countryside may be awash with Amazon cardboard parcels. Can they not just say “ sorry we got it wrong, we will revert back to the way it was” And those who feel they only need fortnightly collections can do their bit by only putting their bins out only fortnightly. Cant wait for the next Douglas council election and vote these arrogant people out , it seems thats the only recourse open to the ratepayers if their representatives don't listen to what they are being told ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 26 minutes ago, FANDL said: Final word on it all. https://fearandloathing2021.wixsite.com/fearandloathingblog/post/osama-bin-laden I, like many, enjoyed your coverage of the national elections, but you seem to have lost your edge since. First the sloppy research (and stroppy response) and now bending some innocent words with a crowbar to somehow compare a local council leader to the world's biggest terrorist over some bin collections? This is German-level humour and bargain basement quality writing that I am sure would have left HJT unimpressed. Did you really write that, proof it, and think "Yep, that's great, that's what I'm going to go with!" ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Gladys said: They would say they are still collecting your rubbish, just they require it to be segregated. Yes, the same volume is still being collected, just in different ways and on different days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Amadeus said: I, like many, enjoyed your coverage of the national elections, but you seem to have lost your edge since. First the sloppy research (and stroppy response) and now bending some innocent words with a crowbar to somehow compare a local council leader to the world's biggest terrorist over some bin collections? This is German-level humour and bargain basement quality writing that I am sure would have left HJT unimpressed. Did you really write that, proof it, and think "Yep, that's great, that's what I'm going to go with!" ? Whilst I don’t agree with @FANDL sentiments, I thought the bin and laden quip was effective. Perhaps it’s linguistic or national stereotype that means you don’t get it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 I would have a great deal more sympathy if the objectors said that they have tried to increase their recycling to reduce the other waste, but it still doesn't work because of a, b and c. But we have never had that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) As I may have mentioned previously we live in Ramsey. Some years ago our big green bins were replaced by smaller blue ones. That’s fine for us we are a household of two. As regards recycling we have access to a car and a civic amenity site less than a couple of miles away access to which is largely on clear roads and the staff are most helpful. So we can recycle all our wine bottles etc and feel quite virtuous about it. We can even take them to the recycling facility at Shoprite which is even closer. My virtuosity would be stretched through by having to drive from the other side of Douglas to the amenity site and having to have a significant wait to dump my rubbish( as friends have told me) or finding it closed due to it being used to much. So hats off to Ramsey Town Commissioners for not following suit and providing adequate recycling facilities Edited December 20, 2022 by The Voice of Reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Amadeus said: Yes, the same volume is still being collected, just in different ways and on different days. Same mass. Not necessarily volume, if people are crushing cans and compressing plastics and successfully flattening cardboard.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANDL Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, Amadeus said: I, like many, enjoyed your coverage of the national elections, but you seem to have lost your edge since. First the sloppy research (and stroppy response) and now bending some innocent words with a crowbar to somehow compare a local council leader to the world's biggest terrorist over some bin collections? This is German-level humour and bargain basement quality writing that I am sure would have left HJT unimpressed. Did you really write that, proof it, and think "Yep, that's great, that's what I'm going to go with!" ? Only one of us has lost it councilor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: As I may have mentioned previously we live in Ramsey. Some years ago our big green bins were replaced by smaller blue ones. That’s fine for us we are a household of two. As regards recycling having access to a car and a civic amenity site less than a couple of miles away access to which is largely on clear roads and the staff are most helpful. So we can recycle all our wine bottles etc and feel quite virtuous about it. We can even take them to the recycling facility at Shoprite which is even closer. My virtuosity would be stretched through by having to drive from the other side of Douglas to the amenity site and having to have a significant wait to dump my rubbish( as friends have told me) or finding it closed due to it being used to much. So hats off to Ramsey Town Commissioners for not following suit and providing adequate recycling facilities You have to ask why people are going to the amenity site. I didn't think they took organic household waste and you can ask for more boxes for recycling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 minute ago, FANDL said: Only one of us has lost it councilor. You certainly lost an l. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Just now, Gladys said: I didn't think they took organic household waste They do if you don't tell them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Just now, Gladys said: You have to ask why people are going to the amenity site. I didn't think they took organic household waste and you can ask for more boxes for recycling. We don’t have boxes for recycling. Maybe that’s why we go to the amenity site! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Just now, The Voice of Reason said: We don’t have boxes for recycling. Maybe that’s why we go to the amenity site! No, I meant in Douglas. So Ramsey does not do kerbside recycling collections? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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