0bserver Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 It's massively weird how some people seem to be in competition with each other by beating/betting other forum users. What do you win, Internet points or something? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, 0bserver said: What do you win, Internet points or something? Its a power thing, I think...... Never works. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Viddy well said: Come at me bro! Why? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viddy well Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, Jarndyce said: Why? Because the spirit of the forum is debate: arguments pitched against their arguments. It's the crucible of rational thought. Controversy is pitched against contemporary until the personal investment is burned away and the truths are revealed. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viddy well Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 22 minutes ago, 0bserver said: It's massively weird how some people seem to be in competition with each other by beating/betting other forum users. What do you win, Internet points or something? No - your arguments prevail upon their merits, and your opponents have nothing left by way of respectable counters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Viddy well said: Because the spirit of the forum is debate: arguments pitched against their arguments. It's the crucible of rational thought. Controversy is pitched against contemporary until the personal investment is burned away and the truths are revealed. Oh, the irony! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viddy well Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Just now, Gladys said: Oh, the irony! Indeed. I offer this not as an ad hominem but rather simply as raw disappointment. I long respected you as an impartial and balanced observer of forum affairs. We disagreed on specifics but that's to be expected. Now it is clear to me that you see yourself as an influencer, and a somewhat inadequate one at that when your impartiality is called out, you can't give anything other than mystical one-liners. You've been a sheep once, so the natural inclination is to assume you've been conditioned. Pithy mystical responses aside, let's see what you're really made of: your actions in the past were to conform and be a good little doggy despite the difficulties on recycling and do as you were told and you learned to love it. Why do you think that should translate to the Manx public? Is it a case of you-had-to-do-it-as-a-little-girl-so-now-everyone-else-should-have-to-do-it? Aka - domineering mother syndrome? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 46 minutes ago, Viddy well said: Indeed. I offer this not as an ad hominem but rather simply as raw disappointment. I long respected you as an impartial and balanced observer of forum affairs. We disagreed on specifics but that's to be expected. Now it is clear to me that you see yourself as an influencer, and a somewhat inadequate one at that when your impartiality is called out, you can't give anything other than mystical one-liners. You've been a sheep once, so the natural inclination is to assume you've been conditioned. Pithy mystical responses aside, let's see what you're really made of: your actions in the past were to conform and be a good little doggy despite the difficulties on recycling and do as you were told and you learned to love it. Why do you think that should translate to the Manx public? Is it a case of you-had-to-do-it-as-a-little-girl-so-now-everyone-else-should-have-to-do-it? Aka - domineering mother syndrome? Oooh...there goes a control freak. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 41 minutes ago, Viddy well said: I offer this not as an ad hominem but rather simply as raw disappointment. Gladys is a big girl and can fight her own fights - but that statement is disingenuous at best, since the remainder of your post develops an ad hominem argument, ending with a paragraph which is positively tabloid in nature. The intellectual tone you’ve been developing for a page or so seems to have become unsettlingly personal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viddy well Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said: Oooh...there goes a control freak. Let me examine that. Edited January 6, 2023 by Viddy well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viddy well Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Jarndyce said: Gladys is a big girl and can fight her own fights - but that statement is disingenuous at best, since the remainder of your post develops an ad hominem argument, ending with a paragraph which is positively tabloid in nature. The intellectual tone you’ve been developing for a page or so seems to have become unsettlingly personal. 8 minutes ago, Jarndyce said: Gladys is a big girl and can fight her own fights - but that statement is disingenuous at best, since the remainder of your post develops an ad hominem argument, ending with a paragraph which is positively tabloid in nature. The intellectual tone you’ve been developing for a page or so seems to have become unsettlingly personal. Ah my goodness I think you're right - how disingenuous of me. Genuinely. Thank you for intervening on behalf of big-girl Gladys. Will you let me try again? Will you forgive my misstep and try again to make my point? Do I have your countenance to try and state my point again? Edited January 6, 2023 by Viddy well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, Viddy well said: Let me examine that. Fair enough... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viddy well Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said: Oooh...there goes a control freak. Says the great white hope of MF. For Goodness' sake, stop trying to be loved by the old boys. Stand up for justice, openness and honesty. God knows there's never been a greater demand for it! "Let your 'yes' mean and 'yes' your 'no' mean 'no!" Cast aside those tepid tendencies of the Laodicia! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Just now, Viddy well said: Says the great white hope of MF. For Goodness' sake, stop trying to be loved by the old boys. Stand up for justice, openness and honesty. God knows there's never been a greater demand for it! "Let your 'yes' mean and 'yes' your 'no' mean 'no!" Cast aside those tepid tendencies of the Laodicia! 😀 You've obviously not searched my posts...give it a try. Try Borough council or govt for starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viddy well Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said: Fair enough... Done - it's a decent legacy. I genuinely think you will will be a force for good . You're clearly you're your own man in the DBC debate despite other pressures. Edit: I do actually trust you to be a moderator. For what it's worth, I can't say that of Amadeus or John Wright. I think that you've navigated the pros and cons pretty well. We'll clash lances in the future but in the meantime, I think you've fitted in well as a moderator. Edited January 6, 2023 by Viddy well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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