majkul Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 "Encourage" people to recycle more, and then don't collect it all because they're recycling too much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 What happens when you are on holiday on collection day. 4 weeks. That's not doable. Stressing me out already. I see the petition is up to 1250 which isn't bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 7 hours ago, majkul said: "Encourage" people to recycle more, and then don't collect it all because they're recycling too much. That's how well thought out this was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 11 minutes ago, Happier diner said: What happens when you are on holiday on collection day. 4 weeks. That's not doable. Stressing me out already. You ask your neighbour to stick it out for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 hour ago, TheTeapot said: You ask your neighbour to stick it out for you. Yeah. I'll have to. He is useless with his bin though. It's out when it should be in and in when it should be out.😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 8 hours ago, majkul said: "Encourage" people to recycle more, and then don't collect it all because they're recycling too much. That's not how I read it. It's the ordinary rubbish that they seem to have too much of. They said they would collect overflow over the Christmas period (as they always apparently have) but may not have allowed for there being two weeks of extra packaging etc. Perhaps people holding it back, perhaps people using the holidays to have a general clear-out. It's not the end of the world, just bit disconcerting for the people in the streets at the end of the round who ended up having their stuff collected on the 'wrong' day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Jacko IOM Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) You do wonder about the actual rational judgement of the council and the council leader. Two articles on MR yesterday One was about the bin petition with the council publicly slagging off the petitioner and saying it “notes the author has made criticisms of the authority based on his own personal opinion, including some personal attacks on individuals” and adding “While we respect the right to petition they should be based on statements of fact rather than statements of opinion and misleading information” https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/douglas-resident-creates-petition-to-bring-back-weekly-bin-collections/ The second is about the petitioners business which is really putting Douglas on the global tourism map and has just been featured in the National Geographic. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/hotel-owner-chuffed-at-national-geographic-mention/ Are they really that stupid to publicly attack and try to discredit someone who is clearly investing well into Douglas and helping IOM government and Visit IOM put Douglas on the map as a tourism venue just because they’re pissed off that someone dared not to agree with the way they went about the bin changes? Edited January 8, 2023 by Adam Jacko IOM 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Roger Mexico said: That's not how I read it. It's the ordinary rubbish that they seem to have too much of. They said they would collect overflow over the Christmas period (as they always apparently have) but may not have allowed for there being two weeks of extra packaging etc. Perhaps people holding it back, perhaps people using the holidays to have a general clear-out. It's not the end of the world, just bit disconcerting for the people in the streets at the end of the round who ended up having their stuff collected on the 'wrong' day. I read it that it was recyling that they couldnt deal with but I see your point. Its ambiguous. Frank's response suggests it's the former too. Maybe @Amadeuscan clarify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 26 minutes ago, Adam Jacko IOM said: “While we respect the right to petition they should be based on statements of fact rather than statements of opinion and misleading information” They believe that petitions may not be based on opinion? Outstanding. So whose name was on the statement issued to Manx Radio? What's next - banning elections because they are based on opinion? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, Happier diner said: I read it that it was recyling that they couldnt deal with but I see your point. Its ambiguous. Frank's response suggests it's the former too. Maybe @Amadeuscan clarify. Can't even get the dates right...9th December? 😀 Slapdash. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Jacko IOM Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Two-lane said: They believe that petitions may not be based on opinion? Outstanding. So whose name was on the statement issued to Manx Radio? What's next - banning elections because they are based on opinion? Yes 1200 people have signed the petition but it’s all down to the wrong opinion of one bloke who doesn’t agree with them apparently. That bloke also seems to be doing quite a good job of putting Douglas on the map yet despite this it seems to be fair game for the council to insult him personally in the press. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldon Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 47 minutes ago, Adam Jacko IOM said: Are they really that stupid That would be a fair working assumption. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 There would seem to be (and this is just an opinion) two possibilities: 1. They did not bother to Google the name Karel Ver Elst before publicly criticising him 2. They made a Google search on the name Karel Ver Elst and still thought a smart idea to publicly criticise him And I am still interested in who signed the statement given to Manx Radio. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majkul Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: That's not how I read it. It's the ordinary rubbish that they seem to have too much of. They said they would collect overflow over the Christmas period (as they always apparently have) but may not have allowed for there being two weeks of extra packaging etc. Perhaps people holding it back, perhaps people using the holidays to have a general clear-out. It's not the end of the world, just bit disconcerting for the people in the streets at the end of the round who ended up having their stuff collected on the 'wrong' day. No, round our way, it was the recycling that wasn't collected just before the weekend, they said the truck was full and they will be back on Monday, after the weekend. They also asked my wife if she can take all the boxes back in until the alternative day of collection. She left them out in the back lane, ready for when they next decide to collect. So much for "provisions have been made" for the Christmas period. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Jacko IOM Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, Two-lane said: There would seem to be (and this is just an opinion) two possibilities: 1. They did not bother to Google the name Karel Ver Elst before publicly criticising him 2. They made a Google search on the name Karel Ver Elst and still thought a smart idea to publicly criticise him And I am still interested in who signed the statement given to Manx Radio. Or they’re simply so arrogant and focussed on beating people into submission and discrediting objectors that they simply don’t care and have lost all perspective abiut everything. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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