More uselessness from DBC

[Albert Tatlock]

12 minutes ago, Mysteron said:

In his petition Mr Ver Elst points out that Mrs Wells and Mr Horning are not qualified to decide on environmental etc issues.  That might well be true, but are any Councillors or other local politicians?  Is he implying that politicians should only involve themselves in issues/debates in which they are eminently qualified?  It seems so.

While his assertions - that some Councillors were elected unopposed - might indeed be factual, that is irrelevant to his argument.  The fact 3 Councillors were elected unopposed, pales into insignificance against the 8 others who were elected by ratepayers, and who also supported and voted for the introduction of fortnightly collections.  

Perhaps Mr Ver Elst should re-direct his ire towards his own constituency Councillors, at least two of whom (and possibly all three) were elected by the public, and voted for fortnightly collections.  And are probably unqualified on environmental issues too.     

 

That's the trouble with too many petitions, they need to stick to the issues and not unnecessarily complicate it - otherwise it gives those who are being petitioned against an excuse to argue and avoid the real issue(s).

Elected with or without votes, they are still elected - that's the law. That's the fault of voters for not turning out, plus how many budding politicians is all this vitriol likely to put off standing next time (a good few is my guess). 

As for qualifications, e.g. what qualifies Allinson to be in treasury? Most politicians are not qualified for the departments they are 'in charge of', because they are not 'running it' and most policies are actually formed with the help of those 'experts' actually running the department - ministers being only responsible for its overall policy actions and standards of behaviour etc.

The likely outcome of all this in the next DBC elections are a much more left wing/green majority, predominately much younger, who don't care about what people say of them on social media - but with half of them likely elected unopposed. Watch the rates shoot up then!    

 

 

 

[Adam Jacko IOM]

19 minutes ago, Gladys said:

I am still waiting for one of the objectors on here to say what it is they are finding difficult, if they have raised their issues with DBC and what the response was.   I have asked this several times, but nothing, nada, zilch. 

Lots of people seem to have said lots of things you cloth-eared bint. But you seem to totally lack the intelligence to fathom any of it out. 

[The Voice of Reason]

2 minutes ago, Adam Jacko IOM said:

Lots of people seem to have said lots of things you cloth-eared bint. But you seem to totally lack the intelligence to fathom any of it out. 

Idiots like you come and go. But there is a reason for Gladys’ longevity on here.

[Adam Jacko IOM]

2 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Idiots like you come and go. But there is a reason for Gladys’ longevity on here.

Likely a lot of ass licking and brown nosing. 

[Albert Tatlock]

4 minutes ago, Adam Jacko IOM said:

Lots of people seem to have said lots of things you cloth-eared bint. But you seem to totally lack the intelligence to fathom any of it out. 

You haven't added anything. All your posts so far have either been about slagging off the politicians involved, slagging off other people personally on here or slagging off the integrity of all the moderators.

 

[Happier diner]

13 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said:

You haven't added anything. All your posts so far have either been about slagging off the politicians involved, slagging off other people personally on here or slagging off the integrity of all the moderators.

 

He'll be badly missed. Not.

[Adam Jacko IOM]

23 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said:

You haven't added anything. All your posts so far have either been about slagging off the politicians involved, slagging off other people personally on here or slagging off the integrity of all the moderators.

 

But you don’t have any integrity Forrest. 

[Albert Tatlock]

16 minutes ago, Adam Jacko IOM said:

But you don’t have any integrity Forrest. 

Stupid is as stupid does.

[Roger Mexico]

1 hour ago, Mysteron said:

In his petition Mr Ver Elst points out that Mrs Wells and Mr Horning are not qualified to decide on environmental etc issues.  That might well be true, but are any Councillors or other local politicians?  Is he implying that politicians should only involve themselves in issues/debates in which they are eminently qualified?  It seems so.

I assume that Mr Ver Elst will be informing us of his extensive academic and practical qualifications in the fields of environmental sciences and waste management.  And those of everyone who has signed his petition. Otherwise it would be a bit hypocritical to be challenging the Councillors from backgrounds of similar ignorance.  

(Of course if Wells or Horning did have such a background - and Horning certainly has a history of working in environmental organisations - they'd just be attacked on the grounds that that made them biased).

Meanwhile all sort of important questions that this situation has given rise to - about implementation; about the way officers are not explaining operational things; about the rules the Council operates under -  remain undiscussed.

[Roger Mexico]

1 hour ago, Albert Tatlock said:

The likely outcome of all this in the next DBC elections are a much more left wing/green majority, predominately much younger, who don't care about what people say of them on social media - but with half of them likely elected unopposed.

That the trouble with old, right wing people nowadays.  They're such snowflakes.

(Actually this is completely true)

[Omobono]

just wondered where civic duty has gone ? Douglas lifeboat annual Sir William Hillary service in St Georges church this afternoon only the   Lt Governor   , Mayor  and her assistant there , no one else from the city fathers , 

House of keys and Leg co did a little better with representatives  from Castletown, Ayre,  and one from the legislative  council  No Douglas representatives present ,  same  situation  with armistice Sunday , 

these community events were always well supported  by our elected representatives , sad state of affairs still I guess some of the City fathers haven't been here   long enough to understand the importance to the community of the RNLI  and its founding father Sir William Hillary , 

[Albert Tatlock]

4 minutes ago, Omobono said:

just wondered where civic duty has gone ? Douglas lifeboat annual Sir William Hillary service in St Georges church this afternoon only the   Lt Governor   , Mayor  and her assistant there , no one else from the city fathers , 

House of keys and Leg co did a little better with representatives  from Castletown, Ayre,  and one from the legislative  council  No Douglas representatives present ,  same  situation  with armistice Sunday , 

these community events were always well supported  by our elected representatives , sad state of affairs still I guess some of the City fathers haven't been here   long enough to understand the importance to the community of the RNLI  and its founding father Sir William Hillary , 

That's bad - and especially on armistice Sunday.

[Apple]

58 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

Meanwhile all sort of important questions that this situation has given rise to - about implementation; about the way officers are not explaining operational things; about the rules the Council operates under -  remain undiscussed.

Exactly.

Maybe the constitution needs revisiting.

[0bserver]

2 hours ago, Omobono said:

just wondered where civic duty has gone ? Douglas lifeboat annual Sir William Hillary service in St Georges church this afternoon only the   Lt Governor   , Mayor  and her assistant there , no one else from the city fathers , 

House of keys and Leg co did a little better with representatives  from Castletown, Ayre,  and one from the legislative  council  No Douglas representatives present ,  same  situation  with armistice Sunday , 

these community events were always well supported  by our elected representatives , sad state of affairs still I guess some of the City fathers haven't been here   long enough to understand the importance to the community of the RNLI  and its founding father Sir William Hillary , 

We shouldn't be expecting our politicos to do things at the weekend. 

Next thing you'll be emailing Daphne Caine at the weekend. 

[0bserver]

2 hours ago, Omobono said:

just wondered where civic duty has gone ? Douglas lifeboat annual Sir William Hillary service in St Georges church this afternoon only the   Lt Governor   , Mayor  and her assistant there , no one else from the city fathers , 

House of keys and Leg co did a little better with representatives  from Castletown, Ayre,  and one from the legislative  council  No Douglas representatives present ,  same  situation  with armistice Sunday , 

these community events were always well supported  by our elected representatives , sad state of affairs still I guess some of the City fathers haven't been here   long enough to understand the importance to the community of the RNLI  and its founding father Sir William Hillary , 

 

2 hours ago, Albert Tatlock said:

That's bad - and especially on armistice Sunday.

 

1 hour ago, Apple said:

Exactly.

Maybe the constitution needs revisiting.

In all seriousness though the current incarnation of Douglas Borough Council/Douglas Corporation/City Council is the most morally bankrupt and heinous that I can remember in at least 40 years. 

All that remains is to see if it is a wretched hive of scum and villainy as suggested by the claims from Mr Scales. 

Do we know when the investigations will be complete?

 

Edited January 8, 2023 by 0bserver