The Voice of Reason Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 8 hours ago, P.K. said: Name them... I can’t. I’ve forgotten them. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriT Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) On 2/18/2023 at 7:03 PM, cissolt said: There goes nearly half the 'savings' on the new bin scheme. https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/douglas-borough-council-ordered-to-pay-property-owner-12000/ Picked on the wrong person there. Edited April 8, 2023 by BriT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 15 hours ago, cissolt said: There goes nearly half the 'savings' on the new bin scheme. If you take into account the legal costs incurred by DBC, maybe the bin collections will have to be reduced to once every 3 months. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshoremanxman Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 14 minutes ago, Two-lane said: If you take into account the legal costs incurred by DBC, maybe the bin collections will have to be reduced to once every 3 months. Looking at Roger Mexicos post on how long that case has been going on for the costs were probably in excess of the £12K they paid out. What a great use of ratepayers funds - fighting with a well known vexatious litigant over an order you knew from the start hadn’t been executed properly anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 2 hours ago, The Voice of Reason said: I can’t. I’ve forgotten them. So how do you know they existed...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, Roxanne said: Because they scoured these boards having no interest in debate or information sharing. Their only purpose was to stir things up, which they did with regularity, making personal attacks against anyone who challenged them. They were suspended and banned only to come back in different guises, and still do. After a while their names cease to mean anything, they just all merge into one huge toxic cloud that comes, and goes. Quite unlike the common or garden asshole who contributes but whose user name it is hard to forget. Bit like noxious farts then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piebaps Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 15 hours ago, MrGarrison said: As an alternative. Do you have anything of value to add to the debate? A photo of Bill Murray and Punxsutawney Phil perhaps🤣 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 It would seem that DBC object to the unfinished extension because it makes the area look shabby (my brain gave up trying to read that judgment posted by RogerMexico, but there must be some such statement in there). I've driven along Quarterbridge Road many times but have not noticed anything untoward anywhere - but I am looking where I am going. On the other hand while driving on the North end of the prom. I have always noticed the derelict Summerland site. No doubt DBC/gov. (whoever owns it) will say that they cannot spend money on it because it has to be left in its virgin state so that a developer will have a free hand. In my opinion, that is crêpe. Not using it as a car park or dumping ground would be a start. Not only that, there is the area right alongside the MER/horse tram/pub which is used as a dump site. Maybe someone should notify DBC and get them to serve a notice: 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, Two-lane said: It would seem that DBC object to the unfinished extension because it makes the area look shabby (my brain gave up trying to read that judgment posted by RogerMexico, but there must be some such statement in there). I've driven along Quarterbridge Road many times but have not noticed anything untoward anywhere - but I am looking where I am going. On the other hand while driving on the North end of the prom. I have always noticed the derelict Summerland site. No doubt DBC/gov. (whoever owns it) will say that they cannot spend money on it because it has to be left in its virgin state so that a developer will have a free hand. In my opinion, that is crêpe. Not using it as a car park or dumping ground would be a start. Not only that, there is the area right alongside the MER/horse tram/pub which is used as a dump site. Maybe someone should notify DBC and get them to serve a notice: To be fair that does not have a direct impact on the neighbours. May be an eyesore, but not actually affecting the fabric of the neighbouring properties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriT Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 34 minutes ago, Two-lane said: On the other hand while driving on the North end of the prom. I have always noticed the derelict Summerland site. No doubt DBC/gov. (whoever owns it) will say that they cannot spend money on it because it has to be left in its virgin state so that a developer will have a free hand. In my opinion, that is crêpe. Not using it as a car park or dumping ground would be a start. Not only that, there is the area right alongside the MER/horse tram/pub which is used as a dump site. Maybe someone should notify DBC and get them to serve a notice: It was like that last summer. Looked an absolute state to those going past on the MER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Just now, BriT said: It was like that last summer. Looked an absolute state to those going past on the MER. You should know by now that rules and regulations only apply to the plebs! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genericUserName Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 22 hours ago, MrGarrison said: the building controllers bullying. Councils and local authorities should have stronger powers to seize and sell dilapidated properties. The owners of neighbouring buildings should not have to put up with difficult people refusing to either sell for renovation or properly maintain a property. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshoremanxman Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, genericUserName said: Councils and local authorities should have stronger powers to seize and sell dilapidated properties. If they have very robust internal processes, appropriate oversight, independent checks and tight procedures to stop those powers being abused yes. Until they have that they should not. The key issue with the Bellamy case above seems to be the order had to be approved in Council and it wasn’t. You can’t have workers taking powers into their own hands. And you can’t give workers who won’t follow existing procedures more powers. Edited February 19, 2023 by offshoremanxman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 11 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said: If they have very robust internal processes, appropriate oversight, independent checks and tight procedures to stop those powers being abused yes. Until they have that they should not. The key issue with the Bellamy case above seems to be the order had to be approved in Council and it wasn’t. You can’t have workers taking powers into their own hands. And you can’t give workers who won’t follow existing procedures more powers. Or, no-one knew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshoremanxman Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Just now, Gladys said: Or, no-one knew Because nobody knew works in reality 😂 Try telling the FSA as a director well nobody knew they’d done all that. It will all be fine and dandy I’m sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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