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Just now, Floater said:

Not really. It’s just Albert being a sad useless hapless wanker of a man who everyone laughs at normally. But who seems to have spent over 20 years on here as a dumb understudy so he can finally try to show what a talentless pile of sad old toss he is. What a joke of a moderator. It’s doubtful he can put his socks on the right feet when he gets out of bed in the morning he’s such a pathetic cunt.

Have you tried yoga or meditation? This sort of multi account rage on a small local forum isn't normal. 

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1 hour ago, Floater said:

Not really. It’s just Albert being a sad useless hapless wanker of a man who everyone laughs at normally. But who seems to have spent over 20 years on here as a dumb understudy so he can finally try to show what a talentless pile of sad old toss he is. What a joke of a moderator. It’s doubtful he can put his socks on the right feet when he gets out of bed in the morning he’s such a pathetic cunt.

Only you and your multi log ins think this. Go have a cup of horlicks and go to bed

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7 hours ago, Satan666 said:

I believe you are the ex council worker who worked in their fleet department, happy to slag all and sundry off whilst taking your nice fat pension courtesy of us tax payers.

This is starting to ring true: how else to explain the incandescent/incoherent rage that these multiple personalities have?   I’ve seen less bile on a gallbladder ward…

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2 hours ago, Floater said:

Not really. It’s just Albert being a sad useless hapless wanker of a man who everyone laughs at normally. But who seems to have spent over 20 years on here as a dumb understudy so he can finally try to show what a talentless pile of sad old toss he is. What a joke of a moderator. It’s doubtful he can put his socks on the right feet when he gets out of bed in the morning he’s such a pathetic cunt.

How did you ever manage to type with all that spit on our keyboard…

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14 hours ago, Satan666 said:

I believe you are the ex council worker who worked in their fleet department, happy to slag all and sundry off whilst taking your nice fat pension courtesy of us tax payers. Over to you, let me know. Sophie 

Hang on. Didn’t you precede that post with “Really sorry to disappoint you but I’m no Councillor nor anything to do with public sector for my work” Do you just magically know these things despite claiming to have nothing to do with DBC? 😂

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As an example of the clear and ongoing democratic deficit in Douglas it is interesting to note that when it suits a councillors own purpose they encourage their Twitter followers to sign a petition to get something stopped. Yet when 1700 of their own ratepayers sign a petition to get something stopped the same councillor believes that it isn’t representative and that those 1700 people now need to provide their full name, address, and post code before they’ll consider the petition as valid. An online petition is either a petition or it isn’t, you can’t ignore a petition you don’t like but actively encourage a petition you do like if they are both in the exact same format on the exact same platform.

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1 hour ago, FANDL said:

an example of the clear and ongoing democratic deficit in Douglas

Yebbut what has St Marks got to do with DBC?   Or vice versa?   Whereas the bin issue was initiated by DBC and only affected Douglas ratepayers, so I’m not sure it’s a great comparison…

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12 minutes ago, Jarndyce said:

Yebbut what has St Marks got to do with DBC?   Or vice versa?   Whereas the bin issue was initiated by DBC and only affected Douglas ratepayers, so I’m not sure it’s a great comparison…

As clarified an online petition is an online petition. If the councillor expected his support of the St Marks Elms online petition to be successful and for government to act on it, why does he now regard the one signed against his own council to be invalid and refuses to act on it unless supported by 1700 additional names and addresses? It appears to be indicative of ideology driving everything at DBC and little interest in what their ratepayers actually want or expect. It appears that the entire point from the start of this has not been about bin collections at all but about that exact sort of democratic deficit in terms of people not being listened to. 

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21 minutes ago, FANDL said:

It appears to be indicative of ideology driving everything at DBC and little interest in what their ratepayers actually want or expect

That’s precisely the point, though - what guarantee is there that the petition was completed only by DBC ratepayers, expressing what they wanted or expected?   What guarantee is there that the entire 1700 signatures didn’t come from outside the DBC rateable area, ie, from people completely unaffected by the bin collection changes?   What guarantee is there that the petition was representative of DBC ratepayers in any way?

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3 minutes ago, Jarndyce said:

That’s precisely the point, though - what guarantee is there that the petition was completed only by DBC ratepayers, expressing what they wanted or expected?   What guarantee is there that the entire 1700 signatures didn’t come from outside the DBC rateable area, ie, from people completely unaffected by the bin collection changes?   What guarantee is there that the petition was representative of DBC ratepayers in any way?

What guarantee was there that any of the 11k people who signed the St Marks petition even lived in the IOM? Yet the same councillor who won’t recognize this petition still signed that one and expected it to be valid as a means of being a catalyst for government action. The optics here don’t look very good. They really don’t. And as such it’s easy to see how a pocket of ratepayers might feel aggrieved. 

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3 minutes ago, FANDL said:

What guarantee was there that any of the 11k people who signed the St Marks petition even lived in the IOM? 

Yes but you could sign a petition for example calling it for it to be illegal to cook and eat dogs in say Korea, without living there.

Should your signature be discounted?

You can still like trees even if you don’t live in St Marks or the IOM

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Everyone ignores online petitions. They're the easy answer for those who want to whine but aren't prepared to do anything constructive. You set up a petition. So fecking what.

To make changes you need to stand up and be elected (whether by direct votes or direct apathy). The common thing about the bin-whingers is that none of them seem to be prepared to stand up and be counted.

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