More uselessness from DBC

[Guest]

Just now, Roxanne said:

I guess you'd have to walk that far out to swim anyway wouldn't you? But not all the time. When the tide is in wouldn't that mean the raft would be in really deep water?

Exactly. Can you imagine the time it’d take to get help there when the tide is in?

[Roxanne]

1 minute ago, Satan666 said:

Exactly. Can you imagine the time it’d take to get help there when the tide is in?

Well, yes, I must admit, I hadn't thought of that. I thought it was quite a good idea. 🤦‍♀️

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Omobono said:

Port Skillion   has nearly 100 steps to navigate  the beach is full of rubble  no facilities and if you are really lucky one of the numerous Congers  could bite your male appendage   off , in placing the swimming raft in Douglas bay the council will have to accept  responsibility  for the safety of those using it ,   a red flag when sea conditions are dangerous , and no doubt the employment of a Lifeguard , never mind toilets changing facilities , you can see where all this is heading , 

thats why we have not had a swimming raft in Douglas bay for the last 100 years 

That’s true. 
I just think the whole things going to be a bit of a lemon. A £30k one at that

[Gladys]

2 minutes ago, Satan666 said:

That’s true. 
I just think the whole things going to be a bit of a lemon. A £30k one at that

£30k?

[Banker]

13 minutes ago, Omobono said:

Port Skillion   has nearly 100 steps to navigate  the beach is full of rubble  no facilities and if you are really lucky one of the numerous Congers  could bite your male appendage   off , in placing the swimming raft in Douglas bay the council will have to accept  responsibility  for the safety of those using it ,   a red flag when sea conditions are dangerous , and no doubt the employment of a Lifeguard , never mind toilets changing facilities , you can see where all this is heading , 

thats why we have not had a swimming raft in Douglas bay for the last 100 years 

There’s no lifeguard at laxey, port Erin or anywhere else there’s a raft or red flags etc so why should Douglas have them?

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, Gladys said:

£30k?

Yes, especially after factoring in the infrastructure to maintain the thing. Ie: build it, drag in, in bad weather, presumably lifeguard equipment.

[hissingsid]

Perhaps the gentleman who drives the tractor could be in charge of the red flag situation and double up as a lifeguard it must be boring just going up and down all day and could swimmers perhaps use the Villa toilets or the Arcade ones a shower unit could be popped in one or the other….just a quick sprint over a roundel, choice of two there, and that is sorted.   I am sure there are councillors who have thought of this of course as a solution.

[finlo]

14 minutes ago, Gladys said:

£30k?

For a couple of pallets and some 45 gallon drums!

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, finlo said:

For a couple of pallets and some 45 gallon drums!

Yes, when bought by a local authority!

[Guest]

15 minutes ago, hissingsid said:

Perhaps the gentleman who drives the tractor could be in charge of the red flag situation and double up as a lifeguard it must be boring just going up and down all day and could swimmers perhaps use the Villa toilets or the Arcade ones a shower unit could be popped in one or the other….just a quick sprint over a roundel, choice of two there, and that is sorted.   I am sure there are councillors who have thought of this of course as a solution.

Surely you’re not suggesting it’ll be ill thought through? 
 

[Guest]

Meant to ask the other day and just remembered now. What has Councillor Amadeus actually ever done for his constituents? Genuine question.

[BriT]

1 hour ago, Satan666 said:

Meant to ask the other day and just remembered now. What has Councillor Amadeus actually ever done for his constituents? Genuine question.

Strange you try to put this forum off the scent now. Had any unwanted interest?

[NoTailT]

1 hour ago, Satan666 said:

Meant to ask the other day and just remembered now. What has Councillor Amadeus actually ever done for his constituents? Genuine question.

I think we have to accept that actually, there's little unpaid councillors can do other than vote on things put before them?

[FANDL]

Just now, NoTailT said:

I think we have to accept that actually, there's little unpaid councillors can do other than vote on things put before them?

The unpaid excuse was initially used by Wells in the aftermath of the poorly received public meeting when she clearly thought she unjustifiably got a hard time. Whether a person is specifically paid to undertake a local authority role is irrelevant. Many company directors with small businesses are unpaid or only have their expenses covered as the company might not be able to support much more of an income. They won’t be getting any get out of jail free card if they don’t discharge their legal duties properly just because they only got paid expenses. If people aren’t happy with the pay to undertake a particular role then they shouldn’t take the role as not being paid doesn’t dilute any of the legal obligations or regulatory expectations at all. 

[Gladys]

1 hour ago, FANDL said:

The unpaid excuse was initially used by Wells in the aftermath of the poorly received public meeting when she clearly thought she unjustifiably got a hard time. Whether a person is specifically paid to undertake a local authority role is irrelevant. Many company directors with small businesses are unpaid or only have their expenses covered as the company might not be able to support much more of an income. They won’t be getting any get out of jail free card if they don’t discharge their legal duties properly just because they only got paid expenses. If people aren’t happy with the pay to undertake a particular role then they shouldn’t take the role as not being paid doesn’t dilute any of the legal obligations or regulatory expectations at all. 

The two positions are not analogous at all.