WTF Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 31 minutes ago, piebaps said: You could collect it from the beach weekly - or even bi-weekly if you wanted to do it greener. if you remove the seaweed nothing is eating the sewage if feeds on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 Ideally we should do a big project to change the tidal flows in the bay but that's mega £££. I did suggest we just get a few trucks and get the sand from Peel and PE. I mean they won't miss it right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bastard Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 21 minutes ago, Amadeus said: Ideally we should do a big project to change the tidal flows in the bay but that's mega £££. I did suggest we just get a few trucks and get the sand from Peel and PE. I mean they won't miss it right? Why don't you recycle the waste glass into beach sand instead ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Amadeus said: Ideally we should do a big project to change the tidal flows in the bay but that's mega £££. I did suggest we just get a few trucks and get the sand from Peel and PE. I mean they won't miss it right? if you replace the groynes the sand will replace itself , let nature do the work ! no need to ship sand in from elsewhere 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 3 hours ago, WTF said: if you remove the seaweed nothing is eating the sewage if feeds on. Sorry, what? Do you think seaweed eats sewage? There is no sewage in Douglas Bay for a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascarino Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 https://cordis.europa.eu/article/id/411734-is-seaweed-the-solution-to-sustainable-biofuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Omobono said: if you replace the groynes the sand will replace itself , let nature do the work ! no need to ship sand in from elsewhere Not what I heard or been shown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollag Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 Was the shift in tidal pattern caused by the breakwater extension not the cause ? I'm sure i read of this a few years back? I think in the 50's, post war, to relieve unemployment work schemes were started, my ould fella did "Tide work" on groyne installation, the Marine drive bridge replacements, similar, a good few blokes were shipped to Linconshire to harvest sugar beet, different days now 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizo Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 43 minutes ago, mollag said: Was the shift in tidal pattern caused by the breakwater extension not the cause ? I'm sure i read of this a few years back? They Reckon the breakwater caused/causes further effects right down the coast of the IoM. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilly Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 10 hours ago, The Bastard said: There's always hope. Some of it has to be down to managing expectations - like buying a house on the TT course then complaining about the racing, seaweed is going to be a factor when you live by the sea. Yes, l think l see what you mean. Well, you are right about managing expectations My garage bill for my eco car yet again skyrocketed, and apparently parts needed replacing due to salt damage from living close to the sea. 😄 Thank you for the other information; it was interesting, particularly the bottles to sand, l can just imagine a great community project with a drop-off facility. Result; lovely golden beaches ⛱ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bastard Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 55 minutes ago, Lilly said: Yes, l think l see what you mean. Well, you are right about managing expectations My garage bill for my eco car yet again skyrocketed, and apparently parts needed replacing due to salt damage from living close to the sea. 😄 Thank you for the other information; it was interesting, particularly the bottles to sand, l can just imagine a great community project with a drop-off facility. Result; lovely golden beaches ⛱ We can dream. The reality is that other places are doing it - I love the passion of some of the projects, they have some amazing people driving them forward. The machinery is initially expensive to start, and it needs lots of energy to get the community and commercial partners involved, but it must be immensely satisfying to see an unloved waste product literally turning into beach. Commercial realities get in the way of course - local authorities recycling glass are really just doing it for profit from reselling the results rather than any green motivation. It would take some hefty persuasion to get them to back a genuine environmental project for its own reasons. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 6 hours ago, The Bastard said: We can dream. The reality is that other places are doing it - I love the passion of some of the projects, they have some amazing people driving them forward. The machinery is initially expensive to start, and it needs lots of energy to get the community and commercial partners involved, but it must be immensely satisfying to see an unloved waste product literally turning into beach. Commercial realities get in the way of course - local authorities recycling glass are really just doing it for profit from reselling the results rather than any green motivation. It would take some hefty persuasion to get them to back a genuine environmental project for its own reasons. The glass bottles here are crushed down to an aggregate, not as fine as sand but smaller than gravel. Its good for block paving. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 15 hours ago, Amadeus said: Not what I heard or been shown. then lets see the report of what you have been shown ,you are very good at publishing youtube clips, lets see one that shows how the replacement of the Groynes have no effect on the retention of sand on the beach , either that or declare it a nature reserve and watch the birds feeding on the flies and sand hoppers living in the seaweed, hauling the seaweed up and down the beach everyday is just a complete waste o time and ratepayers money 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, Omobono said: then lets see the report of what you have been shown ,you are very good at publishing youtube clips, lets see one that shows how the replacement of the Groynes have no effect on the retention of sand on the beach , either that or declare it a nature reserve and watch the birds feeding on the flies and sand hoppers living in the seaweed, hauling the seaweed up and down the beach everyday is just a complete waste o time and ratepayers money I think there are enough videos about Germans and beach defences on YouTube. But I’ll check my notes when I’m back as I did request info on this before. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Amadeus said: I think there are enough videos about Germans and beach defences on YouTube. But I’ll check my notes when I’m back as I did request info on this before. Look forward to seeing the evidence ! safe journey home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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