WTF Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 49 minutes ago, John Wright said: Horse Trams? Douglas didn’t go begging, cap in hand. They closed it down. Government went begging to buy as they considered it a national asset. that was a funny one , IOMG had been shifting costs on to LA's for a while under the guidance of Bell, it was real karma when DBC forced their hand to take over the loss making trams in what some would say was an act of revenge., Bell was fuming on the radio as i recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriT Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 22 minutes ago, 2112 said: This has puzzled me. She has nothing to do with DBC or anything to do with the refuse crisis, yet she is sticking her beak into something that really doesn’t concern her. The decisions that DBC made are for DBC to rectify or they will face the consequences from both ratepayers and the electorate, which will also impact on Douglas MHKs. She’s Butting in on behalf of friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De nada Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, hissingsid said: Onchan collections are weekly, prompt and efficient we do not want anything to do with the Douglas incompetent City Council and their cock ups. Tempting fate a bit Sid... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) The ground is being laid for all island amalmagamation of public services to local private business providers. And why not, some would say. Edited December 3, 2022 by Apple spelling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 23 minutes ago, Apple said: The ground is being laid for all island amalmagamation of public services to local private business providers. And why not, some would say. 23 minutes ago, Apple said: The ground is being laid for all island amalmagamation of public services to local private business providers. And why not, some would say. I would say “why” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 23 minutes ago, Apple said: The ground is being laid for all island amalmagamation of public services to local private business providers. Hand over an essential service to a private company to run as a monopoly, and things might not turn out too well. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 hour ago, The Voice of Reason said: Bugger off! It works fine in Ramsey. We don’t need to have the mess and problems that other parts of the Island are experienced foisted upon us. Leave us alone. (and thanks to Ramsey Commissioners for not going down the Douglas path) Except Ramsey Commissioners purchased that massive white elephant/courthouse and saddled rate payers with massive debt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 LGR is long overdue but easier said than done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, Amadeus said: LGR is long overdue but easier said than done. The reform needed is obvious and isn't difficult, really. The people involved will be though. In a place this small, are the interests of people in, say, Bride really that different from those in Onchan? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Two-lane said: Hand over an essential service to a private company to run as a monopoly, and things might not turn out too well. A bit like the EFW plant? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: A bit like the EFW plant? It's not privatisation or monopolies at fault. It's the Isle of Man Governments inability to negotiate any decent deals or contracts. They all go to shit. EFW Plant Loganair Liverpool Landing Stage Promenade It's the same with appointing senior people. Director of Public Transport and Director of Ports bring two prime examples we've seen recently. They just lack professional standards and any business acumen. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANDL Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 hour ago, 0bserver said: Except Ramsey Commissioners purchased that massive white elephant/courthouse and saddled rate payers with massive debt. They all do it but Douglas holds the crown https://fearandloathing2021.wixsite.com/fearandloathingblog/post/getta-bloomin-move-on 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viddy well Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 With power comes accountability. From 2015, it's clear that Claire wanted power. "The LibVan party has unveiled its candidate for a by-election in Douglas.Claire Wells will be the party’s candidate for Murrays Ward after a vacant spot came up when Bill Malarkey won a seat in the House of Keys.Claire is married with two young children and works in IT, as well as being an aromatherapist and herbal practitioner.Party leader Kate Beeroft described Mrs Wells as very intelligent and gifted with the right principles." https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/claire-wells-is-libvan-candidate/ Well she has power now. She's used it. It's gone about as well as things did for her mentor Kate Beecroft. It is time to own the failure and step down. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Gladys said: The reform needed is obvious and isn't difficult, really. The people involved will be though. In a place this small, are the interests of people in, say, Bride really that different from those in Onchan? It's not as easy as people think. Some services are more efficient when provided locally. Others aren't. And do we really want the DOI to be in charge of even more stuff? It will take some bold political action to push this through and we don't have bold politicians. We certainly have a few of my colleagues who are all in favour of LGR but that's not enough and if we do 4+1 then the City won't be affected much anyway. MHKs won't touch it as local authorities will rally voters against them. Partially they will have a point in saying that they know best what their particular part of the island really needs, but efficiency savings have to be made - so as always, a balance has to be found. The number of LA on the island is too high. Maybe if people continue not to care about local politics, the problem will solve itself when more and more seats remain empty. Because let's face it: the only times people care about local politics is when the rate bill arrives or the bins aren't emptied. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 8 hours ago, Amadeus said: LGR is long overdue but easier said than done. There's nothing difficult about it. You smash a few (proverbial) heads together, trample on a few tiny political empires while you burn the current system to the ground. Then replace it with a workable, value for money system. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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