offshoremanxman Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 11 hours ago, wrighty said: I’m all for making buses free. I’m still using my car though. I agree I’m all for other people being given the option to access free buses. Personally even if they were free I’d never use one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiVibes Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Jarndyce said: Smacks a little of double standards…if ONLY the other car owners were capable of intelligent thought - like you… Not at all, I use the car when there is logically no other option, I like fresh airand good health, and my cabon footprint is therfore massivley reduced. The idea of zero carbon is not achieveable right now but that won't stop me trying to reduce as much as I can. Edited October 20, 2022 by HiVibes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshoremanxman Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 33 minutes ago, HiVibes said: Not at all, I use the car when there is logically no other option, I like fresh airand good health, and my cabon footprint is therfore massivley reduced. But the buses are all diesel and do about 7mpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asthehills Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 minute ago, offshoremanxman said: But the buses are all diesel and do about 7mpg The “express bus” runs over the mountain every morning and hold up a huge line of cars who end up burning more fuel than of it wasn’t there and if you are ever unfortunate enough to be in Ramsey when it leaves you will see that most of the people who use it drive or get a lift to the bus station. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 39 minutes ago, HiVibes said: my cabon footprint is therfore massivley reduced. I've started sourcing my pasta a lot closer to home. It's massively reduced my carbonara footprint. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Lamb Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Numbnuts said: Just a small point , sorry. Scotch is a drink , Its Scot's who hail from Scotland . I know: it really winds them up, though. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiVibes Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 45 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said: But the buses are all diesel and do about 7mpg Where as a landorver discovery does about 19mpg and almost always has just one person in there who bought the car to look outdoorsy whilst still being a fat chuff who moans about people who actually are outdoorsy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, HiVibes said: Where as a landorver discovery does about 19mpg and almost always has just one person in there who bought the car to look outdoorsy whilst still being a fat chuff who moans about people who actually are outdoorsy. I’m averaging about 29 in the discovery sport. Most of my mileage is motorway off Island. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asthehills Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 We get nearly 60 - 65mpg day in day out in the family run about diesel. normally with two of us doing a 40 mile return journey to work. So easily less than a gallon a day for journeys that even with the £2 capped fare would cost us £8 a day, take at least twice as long, and on wet days involve the addition of a taxi or getting soaked. Public transport and active travel are non starters for so many people they are better off incentivising people to run more efficient vehicles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiVibes Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, John Wright said: I’m averaging about 29 in the discovery sport. Most of my mileage is motorway off Island. Yeah, motorway off island, so you like the outdoors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 Just now, HiVibes said: Yeah, motorway off island, so you like the outdoors? No, I need a vehicle that’s comfortable, doing long distances, sometimes in the mountains and snow, and can carry the two dogs and my electric wheelchair. I don’t want a van. I am considering an all terrain chair, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asthehills Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, John Wright said: No, I need a vehicle that’s comfortable, doing long distances, sometimes in the mountains and snow, and can carry the two dogs and my electric wheelchair. I don’t want a van. I am considering an all terrain chair, however. If you haven’t driven or been driven in a modern van then I would honestly suggest you try one. They are very car like these days (honestly, our is more comfortable than any land/Range Rover I have ever been in,and far more economical. Mercedes, Ford (transit custom) and VW would all be worth a look. The acre can versions are superb , but expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 18 minutes ago, Asthehills said: If you haven’t driven or been driven in a modern van then I would honestly suggest you try one. They are very car like these days (honestly, our is more comfortable than any land/Range Rover I have ever been in,and far more economical. Mercedes, Ford (transit custom) and VW would all be worth a look. The acre can versions are superb , but expensive I want 4WD i need an automatic I need to be able to get in like a car. Vans are a struggle. Height fare penalties on multiple ferries are a no no. Predicates against a van. I learned to drive in a mini van and a VW motorhome. I regularly drove Paul’s Doblo when he was working. As well as the Disco here Ive got a 9 year old low mileage 4x4 diesel Duster in Spain, with hand clutch and fitted with hoist for chair. Worth nothing, but a pleasant drive. And I get 45+. Had an upholsterer re trim interior in leather in Bulgaria during their lockdown. . Fortunately because I qualify for DLA & mobility I get VAT knocked off. But I’m not looking to replace the Disco or Duster. In Jan/Feb/March I’m sailing IoM Heysham, Holyhead Dublin, Rosslare Bilbao, Barcelona Civitavecchia, Ancona Igoumenitsa and return via Santander Portsmouth. A van would add £1200-1500 to that trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Asthehills said: We get nearly 60 - 65mpg day in day out in the family run about diesel. normally with two of us doing a 40 mile return journey to work. So easily less than a gallon a day for journeys that even with the £2 capped fare would cost us £8 a day, take at least twice as long, and on wet days involve the addition of a taxi or getting soaked. Public transport and active travel are non starters for so many people they are better off incentivising people to run more efficient vehicles. That seems a lot of mpg for a diesel car in Iom? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Harry Lamb said: 5 hours ago, Numbnuts said: Just a small point , sorry. Scotch is a drink , Its Scot's who hail from Scotland . I know: it really winds them up, though. You’re more to be pitied than scolded, I think… 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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