Non-Believer Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 5 hours ago, snowman said: none of this spending should be scrapped. it's the income thats the real problem. Surely if income is a problem then spending needs to be adjusted accordingly until such time as the problem is resolved? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english zloty Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 3 hours ago, The Phantom said: Can you make it like Mario-kart with weapons and ramming? Or Road Rash, with clubs... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 44 minutes ago, Passing Time said: stop with your nonsense - of course it's a fortress. When was the last time the vikings raided... It's like a deterrent. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Non-Believer said: Surely if income is a problem then spending needs to be adjusted accordingly until such time as the problem is resolved? The point is, any fool can cut things. The clever people solve the income issue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, snowman said: The point is, any fool can cut things. The clever people solve the income issue You solve the income issue by cutting the expenditure so the income is no longer a problem. Simple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-in-man Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Great idea only running to Laxey. The bus service into town is brilliant, with a nice generic terminal made of imported granite at Laxey. I for one would use a tram from Ramsey to Laxey and bus the rest of the way if I needed to go into Douglas. Same with a train to Castletown only. The journey from Port Erin to Castletown is lovely. The bus ride to Douglas is quicker with just empty industrial estates, building sites and cuttings on the train. (Posting to ask the question - why the fuck is everything so Douglas centred? - Douglas is shit. A dump, coming a close second place to Peel for buildings in need of a rebuild, a lick of paint and some decent customer service. The chance to go somewhere else instead of these two festering, unwelcoming dives must be grabbed by the balls and exploited). 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 hour ago, x-in-man said: The bus ride to Douglas is quicker with just empty industrial estates, building sites and cuttings on the train. Except for fantastic views going out via port soderick & lovely countryside through to ballasalla there’s nothing to see!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshoremanxman Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 16 hours ago, Non-Believer said: Surely if income is a problem then spending needs to be adjusted accordingly until such time as the problem is resolved? This is government nobody ever says our income is X so we can only spend Y delivering Z. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manx Bean Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 On 11/21/2022 at 6:33 AM, asitis said: Anything that has Gawne written on it, is likely to cost untraceable millions ! You for real? He resurfaced the whole of the Sloc for £400k. The man is a financial behemoth. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 3 hours ago, x-in-man said: Great idea only running to Laxey. The bus service into town is brilliant, with a nice generic terminal made of imported granite at Laxey. I for one would use a tram from Ramsey to Laxey and bus the rest of the way if I needed to go into Douglas. Same with a train to Castletown only. The journey from Port Erin to Castletown is lovely. The bus ride to Douglas is quicker with just empty industrial estates, building sites and cuttings on the train. (Posting to ask the question - why the fuck is everything so Douglas centred? - Douglas is shit. A dump, coming a close second place to Peel for buildings in need of a rebuild, a lick of paint and some decent customer service. The chance to go somewhere else instead of these two festering, unwelcoming dives must be grabbed by the balls and exploited). Because its the biggest place, by a long way. More people work there than anywhere else, again by a long way. That's seems to be the way it works all over the world. Maybe we should make Bride our transport hub 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 3 hours ago, x-in-man said: Douglas is shit. A dump, coming a close second place to Peel for buildings in need of a rebuild, a lick of paint Don't let Marlene Maska hear you talking like that otherwise you'll be off to the Manx National Heritage Re-education Centre https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/more-awareness-needed-on-islands-built-heritage/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 3 hours ago, 0bserver said: Don't let Marlene Maska hear you talking like that otherwise you'll be off to the Manx National Heritage Re-education Centre https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/more-awareness-needed-on-islands-built-heritage/ HaHa. Yes we must be the only place in the world where being a dump and needing a rebuild is seen as a positive feature towards preservation order 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 8 hours ago, Manx Bean said: You for real? He resurfaced the whole of the Sloc for £400k. The man is a financial behemoth. Does that mean the money is Gawne already? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Happier diner said: HaHa. Yes we must be the only place in the world where being a dump and needing a rebuild is seen as a positive feature towards preservation order There is an irony in trying to preserve everything that is just old without some criteria of value or relevance. You devalue the good by swamping it with bad or mediocre. And you also do not allow space for something better to come along. If a building has appeal and can be brought back into use then it serves a purpose in both form and function. If not then it's just taking up space and costing money to boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, CallMeCurious said: There is an irony in trying to preserve everything that is just old without some criteria of value or relevance. You devalue the good by swamping it with bad or mediocre. And you also do not allow space for something better to come along. If a building has appeal and can be brought back into use then it serves a purpose in both form and function. If not then it's just taking up space and costing money to boot. A good number of empty buildings in Douglas should just be flattened. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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