trench12 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 That would suggest customs controls for the Dublin in bound at ronaldsway........or just a telephone to declare goods with the occasional visit by customs ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysteron Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 1 hour ago, cissolt said: A friend's son had a recent issue with a cryptocoin related theft, the police lacked the skills to even investigate and stated it was too difficult to resolve. I wasn't aware that we could just ignore crimes that are difficult! Could this be a jurisdictional issue possibly? Others on here will know for certain, but does the Constabulary only investigate crimes which happen here? Presumably your friend's son resides here, but was the crime against them committed here, or elsewhere? I may be wrong, but I'd have thought the crime is committed in whichever country/jurisdiction the thief operates from. In cyber- or crypto- crimes it might be nigh on impossible to identify where the thief operates from. If so, how can the IOM Constabulary investigate here? Assuming the thief didn't operate from the IOM, if the police took a report from your friend's son, where would they send it to for investigation? I've read local media reports where locals have been convicted of defrauding victims living elsewhere, because the former committed their crimes from here, but I don't recall seeing any local reports where non-residents have been convicted in the Isle of Man, for defrauding IOM residents, presumably because their crimes were not committed here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Runner Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 6 hours ago, John Wright said: Consequence of Brexit. The planning permission drawings are dated 2012 so I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forestboy Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Omobono said: there must be a few senior officers getting ready to retire , cant beat picking up your police pension and starting a new job with a civil service salary , and I would assume most have no banking Audit or financial experience , Like the Motor Sport set up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 21 hours ago, forestboy said: Like the Motor Sport set up. It’s totally wrong. If you retire, you retire and go and work in the private sector. I get the impression that these particular roles are allocated to retiring police officers, not because they are the best qualified, or professionally qualified. All this island is doing is creating empires within empires. Whilst I appreciate that Moneyval and other regulations mean that resources should be prioritised into such activities as money laundering etc. Why can’t the Financial Services Authority/Commission take on additional duties, with existing staff? Why does the new PIMLIT need legal resources? Doesn’t the taxpayer pay for the AGs Chambers? Can’t they do the work, after all, if any prosecution result from the work of PIMLIT, the AGs Chambers would be involved. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 12 minutes ago, 2112 said: It’s totally wrong. If you retire, you retire and go and work in the private sector. A lot of the public sector would be totally unemployable in the private sector. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 36 minutes ago, 0bserver said: A lot of the public sector would be totally unemployable in the private sector. You are right. Let them put their employability and marketing skills to the test. Let them put their interpersonal skills and interview techniques into practice, this time on the other side of the desk. It’s easy work, working for IOMG, your guaranteed work till they totally retire. As for retired police, why don’t they get a job with G4S or other security guard firms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted January 15, 2023 Author Share Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) On 1/14/2023 at 3:25 PM, cissolt said: And none of them noticed the PPE medpro scandal? A friend's son had a recent issue with a cryptocoin related theft, the police lacked the skills to even investigate and stated it was too difficult to resolve. I wasn't aware that we could just ignore crimes that are difficult! How do you steal cryptocoin? Thought the whole idea was it was inherently safe what with the blockchain distributed ledgers recording every transaction blah blah. Edited January 15, 2023 by CallMeCurious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 If PIMLIT investigate and as a result charges are brought, should it reach trial, and should the court case collapse, either due to the prosecution withdrawing charges, as a result of shoddy work, preparation and non submissions of evidence, or at trial the accused is acquitted, who will take responsibility? Lots of cases have collapsed due to the police failings, or evidence mistakes and AG chambers screw up? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, CallMeCurious said: How do you steal cryptocoin? Thought the whole idea was it was inherently safe what with the blockchain distributed ledgers recording every transaction blah blah. I think they were hacked but the police lacked even the most basic of knowledge to investigate, you would think if they didn't have the expertise they would outsource for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 26 minutes ago, 2112 said: As for retired police, why don’t they get a job with G4S or other security guard firms. I'm pretty sure neither of them will be paying north of 50k pa! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyWolf Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 I know of one well qualified local young man who applied for some jobs here on the good old iom that well fitted his skill set, the last straw came after being overlooked once again after being interviewed for a government job that was given to another ex bobby double dipping. Then we wonder why our youngsters don’t return, speaking to him while home at Christmas he now has a well paid job in uk and doesn’t now think he’ll return for long years. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 On 1/14/2023 at 12:15 PM, Steve_Christian said: Pay peanuts and you get monkeys. Does that include people who work for low wages in the health and social care sectors. ? Or hospitality sectors. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercenary Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Frothiest whinging thread of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Christian Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 9 hours ago, Apple said: Does that include people who work for low wages in the health and social care sectors. ? Or hospitality sectors. ? No - I’m referring to benchmarking of roles. Pay too little for a role where that person can earn far more in the private sector and you’ll get a monkey. The issue you raise is that healthcare and social care wages are benchmarked way too low - which is a crime. If that’s your point I 100% agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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