Government submits plan for improvements to Sea Terminal

[John Wright]

On 12/24/2022 at 7:25 PM, Roger Mexico said:

But if it's just essential maintenance, it wouldn't need planning permission at all (the building isn't Registered, even though it ought to be).  There would be no need for architects or drawings and all the rest or the moving of the fire exit.  It's typical of the way that the DoI tends to ignore maintenance until things get bad, and then turn it into some expensive 'project', when it would be simpler, quicker and muck quicker just to fix stuff.

And if you think that something would make a good interchange unless there is more than one type of thing there, I don't think you've quite grasped the concept of 'interchange'.

Looking at the application the current fire/emergency escape stairs down from the flat roof ( which serve the first floor offices ) actually come down on the far side of the cross harbour stair tower to the walkway serving the Ben’s berth.

It’s many years since I went up there. But I’m fairly certain that the roof level also changes under the passenger foot way, it marks the end of the roof of the sea terminal and the start of the covered walkway to the sea cat berth. They go down about 4 steps just before you’d have to turn left to approach the emergency stairs to ground level. Then the emergency stairs to ground level have a 90 degree turn at top and bottom.That’s a trip/fall hazard.Not ideal for an escape route. The new stairs to ground will eliminate those two turns as they will be perpendicular, rather than parallel, to the flat roof.

So, they’re repairing a small area of flat roof, which doesn’t need planning, but removing three hazards and existing stair case and putting in a new one, and replacing/moving some railings, which do.

Seems pretty minor and sensible to do at the same time.

[John Wright]

Just to be clear. It’s repairing the flat roof shown here. Replacing the railings and relocating the existing  emergency stairs ( shown ) from one side of the lift shaft/stair tower to the other. New one will  be where the two cars are parked.

[Happier diner]

11 minutes ago, John Wright said:

Looking at the application the current fire/emergency escape stairs down from the flat roof ( which serve the first floor offices ) actually descend into the Maritime Security Area on the Victoria Pier. I.e. they come down on the far side of the security gate.

So, they’re repairing a small area of flat roof, which doesn’t need planning, but removing a stair case and putting in a new one, and replacing/moving some railings, which do.

Seems pretty minor and sensible to do at the same time.

Clearly another DOI vanity project.......if you believed some of the muppetry on here.