hissingsid Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 The DOI are getting stick regarding the toilets in Castletown but surely it is up to the Commissioners to provide public toilets and service them. I know Onchan Commissioners do and the DBC do and am pretty sure Peel do. The DOI may own the building which is clouding the issue but the Commissioners are collecting rates for this service amongst others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Yet another example of why we need urgent local authority reform. There are so many areas where DOI and LAs have overlapping and competing interest. The GMP just want to be able to easily and conveniently take a piss... they don't care who owns what. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steady Eddie Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, hissingsid said: The DOI are getting stick regarding the toilets in Castletown but surely it is up to the Commissioners to provide public toilets and service them. I know Onchan Commissioners do and the DBC do and am pretty sure Peel do. The DOI may own the building which is clouding the issue but the Commissioners are collecting rates for this service amongst others. The Castletown toilets are owned by the DOI. The Commissioners only lease them. Why should they continue to lease them if they aren’t fit for purpose as the DOI won’t refurbish them? It’s no different to any landlord situation. Why would anyone pay to rent sub standard premises? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 I’m sure Minister Thomas will no doubt hit social media to issue point by point rebuttal to claims, and counter claims. IOMG and the the local authorities are quite prepared to squabble, use this issue between them as a political football, or big stick in which to beat each other. No doubt IOMG in its infinite wisdom will commission a report, like the swimming pools on public conveniences, who should maintain and own them, Surely this island has more worrying things to be concerned with? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monasqueen Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, 2112 said: Surely this island has more worrying things to be concerned with? But surely there's nothing more worrying than being somewhere without an open convenience, at just the most inconvenient time. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, hissingsid said: The DOI are getting stick regarding the toilets in Castletown but surely it is up to the Commissioners to provide public toilets and service them. I know Onchan Commissioners do and the DBC do and am pretty sure Peel do. The DOI may own the building which is clouding the issue but the Commissioners are collecting rates for this service amongst others. In this case I think the historic reason the toilets are DoI is that they are there to provide a service to harbour users - a DoI responsibility. I you think about it most of the Island's harbours have (often fairly basic) facilities. Clearly the fine gentlemen and ladies who now run the DoI do not wish to be associated with providing such vulgar services to the public - or indeed any services if they can help it. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, monasqueen said: But surely there's nothing more worrying than being somewhere without an open convenience, at just the most inconvenient time. I couldn’t agree more. However what we have is a local authority arguing the toss, who in turn is blaming others. Public Conveniences are necessary if the island is to have 500,000 plus tourists a year. This should be something that should be resolved easily without the usual nonsense, and politicos questions. Personally I would rather money is spent on this issue, and other pie in the sky schemes or money wasting ideas are kicked into the long grass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Runner Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Back for Christmas/ New Year and this sticks out as a Prime Example of why I left Its a fucking toilet, I can't imagine, in fact I know, it would cost less than £15- 20k to refurbish the porcelain and a few tiles. Yet despite this easy option we have the DOI dick waving at the Castletown Commissionaires who are waving back a smaller member - I will let you fill in CTown MHKs names here yourselves..... What a CHILDISH argument, grow up you Manxies, it is pathetic seeing this type of stuff but makes me thank my choice of leaving this pathetic excuse for a country and taking my family with me. Happy New Year 🙂 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 It’s not unusual to have a full repairing lease on a commercial building, the commissioners should be agreeing a long lease and paying for the refurbishment. What’s the alternative? DOI refurbish and charge higher rent? It has to be paid for one way or the other. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Blade Runner said: Back for Christmas/ New Year and this sticks out as a Prime Example of why I left Its a fucking toilet, I can't imagine, in fact I know, it would cost less than £15- 20k to refurbish the porcelain and a few tiles. Yet despite this easy option we have the DOI dick waving at the Castletown Commissionaires who are waving back a smaller member - I will let you fill in CTown MHKs names here yourselves..... What a CHILDISH argument, grow up you Manxies, it is pathetic seeing this type of stuff but makes me thank my choice of leaving this pathetic excuse for a country and taking my family with me. Happy New Year 🙂 It's the Manx way Blade Runner. We even argue over a public toilet like it's the Alamo. No one cares about the big stuff and the millions wasted. That's why they get away with it. Good to hear from you though. Which part of the world are you living now ? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steady Eddie Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 20 minutes ago, Blade Runner said: What a CHILDISH argument, grow up you Manxies, it is pathetic seeing this type of stuff but makes me thank my choice of leaving this pathetic excuse for a country and taking my family with me. Don’t Fanny about say what you really want to say! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 In their current form I would hesitate to take a piss in them, they were dilapidated and utterly filthy, clearly no maintenance or anything else. True to form we'd rather let something go to rack and ruin than maintain it and keep it clean, then moan and argue about the costs ! We really couldn't run a piss up in a pisshouse ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asthehills Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) I can’t comment for the ladies, but as far as the gents are concerned what is meant to be wrong with them? I was in there only last week and can’t say I left feeling traumatised or like I had missed out on any of the experience of taking a slash? Edited December 28, 2022 by Asthehills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderella Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Blade Runner said: Back for Christmas/ New Year and this sticks out as a Prime Example of why I left Its a fucking toilet, I can't imagine, in fact I know, it would cost less than £15- 20k to refurbish the porcelain and a few tiles. Yet despite this easy option we have the DOI dick waving at the Castletown Commissionaires who are waving back a smaller member - I will let you fill in CTown MHKs names here yourselves..... What a CHILDISH argument, grow up you Manxies, it is pathetic seeing this type of stuff but makes me thank my choice of leaving this pathetic excuse for a country and taking my family with me. Happy New Year 🙂 Ouch. Bit of anger management needed there. Though we can all agree that not providing public toilets and instead two authorities having a pissing contest over them is pathetic. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderella Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, asitis said: In their current form I would hesitate to take a piss in them, they were dilapidated and utterly filthy, clearly no maintenance or anything else. True to form we'd rather let something go to rack and ruin than maintain it and keep it clean, then moan and argue about the costs ! We really couldn't run a piss up in a pisshouse ! Or as some have commented - only a matter of time until someone proposes a, very, expensive consultant’s report on them. Followed by a reno costing hundreds of thousands. For a novel approach, why don’t DOI transfer ownership to the commissioners with modest updating grant attached (say ten thousand). The commissioners get new asset that their residents appreciate, and can update and hold reopening ceremony (got to get PR photo). DOI get shot of them and out of the way 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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