Numbnuts Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, John Wright said: And, of course, the operating company is different in Jersey to IoM. One could go, without taking the other down. Yes but they very closely entwined . If ! Jersey is found negligent it will , in my opinion , have massive repercussions on the IoM operation. Hope I’m wrong but don’t think I will be. Edited October 8, 2023 by Numbnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the shred Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 It could have been an enthusiastic DIY operation, anything is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the shred Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 If Jersey is anything like the IOM there will be little speculation as most people will know . There are no secrets in small jurisdictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 A bbc report on jersey’s situation, no gas until tomorrow at earliest. Good job that it’s very mild at moment https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-jersey-67045835 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldon Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 49 minutes ago, Banker said: A bbc report on jersey’s situation, no gas until tomorrow at earliest. Good job that it’s very mild at moment https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-jersey-67045835 "a rogue code", eh? Well that explains everything. Good to see that Jo Cox hasn't lost her natural talent for communications. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 23 minutes ago, Sheldon said: "a rogue code", eh? Well that explains everything. Good to see that Jo Cox hasn't lost her natural talent for communications. Rogue code that stopped their backup system? Sounds like Ashford level of comprehension around IT issues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 25 minutes ago, Sheldon said: "a rogue code", eh? Well that explains everything. Good to see that Jo Cox hasn't lost her natural talent for communications. Probably a device reported an error code which the software didn't handle. Error testing is a PITA... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, GD4ELI said: Probably a device reported an error code which the software didn't handle. Error testing is a PITA... If you remember they used a similar excuse when they tried to put the new billing system in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) " Ms Cox said back-up systems had also failed. "All of them failed at exactly the same time because of the code," she said. "The chances of that happening is like winning the EuroMillions."" Well, individual events happening by chance at the same time is like winning the lottery. If multiple systems have a common failure point, and that point fails, it is guaranteed that everything will shut down at the same time. Maybe Cox knows that she is talking nonsense, but it's just a press release. It would be sensible for software used in this situation to be developed to the same standard as military and avionics systems - where testing is not optional. But that kind of development is..... expensive. [My son is a programmer who worked for a while at the Jaguar Cars Design Centre in England. He mentioned to me some problems with security on the buses (not the 107 from Barnet), and I suggested they should get people with avionics experience into the company. He said there was an ex-avionics engineer. He did not like the rigorous nature of that kind of work, so he joined a car company where standards were much more relaxed). Edited October 9, 2023 by Two-lane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Two-lane said: " Ms Cox said back-up systems had also failed. "All of them failed at exactly the same time because of the code," she said. "The chances of that happening is like winning the EuroMillions."" Well, individual events happening by chance at the same time is like winning the lottery. If multiple systems have a common failure point, and that point fails, it is guaranteed that everything will shut down at the same time. Maybe Cox knows that she is talking nonsense, but it's just a press release. It would be sensible for software used in this situation to be developed to the same standard as military and avionics systems - where testing is not optional. But that kind of development is..... expensive. [My son is a programmer who worked for a while at the Jaguar Cars Design Centre in England. He mentioned to me some problems with security on the buses (not the 107 from Barnet), and I suggested they should get people with avionics experience into the company. He said there was an ex-avionics engineer. He did not like the rigorous nature of that kind of work, so he joined a car company where standards were much more relaxed). What happened with the UK flight control system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 19 minutes ago, Gladys said: What happened with the UK flight control system? Oh, you are a one for impertinent questions. The answer is - that's what happens when organisations are taken over by managers who have no technical background and know only money. The first couple of minutes or so of this video presents an interesting view of NATS (and if only the MHKs here would do the same): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8Q-5IumT2Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the shred Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Most restaurants and Hotels use gas to cook so they won’t be happy as their tourist season is still going until the end of October. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarley Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 21 hours ago, GD4ELI said: Probably a device reported an error code which the software didn't handle. Error testing is a PITA... @The Voice of Reason Thought you might be wondering... GD4ELI isn't talking about pita bread, he means to say that error testing is a Pain In The Ass. Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 21 hours ago, Fred the shred said: Most restaurants and Hotels use gas to cook so they won’t be happy as their tourist season is still going until the end of October. They’re not with most reporting full bookings for weekend & completely lost, assuming compensation demands will follow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringy Rose Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Banker said: assuming compensation demands will follow The walking lobotomy Jo Cox will just tell them all, in corporate speak, to fuck off. Same as she does here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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