0bserver Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, NoTailT said: I think this is all directed at DBC as an entity, not Frank specifically. He's a part time unpaid Councillor. I don't mean that disrespectfully. It's been said before by others. Island politicians, be they MHKs or so-called Councillors, have no power or control to rein in their officers or hold them responsible for their actions. They could literally get away with murder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANDL Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, NoTailT said: Didn't @FANDLsay a few weems back hed spoken to Scales? Maybe he can enlighten us. Don’t want to get involved in this anymore to any great degree but you paged the thread. Writing critical pieces on professional politicians is so much more engaging than the pathetic shitstorm that the amateurs create which is just tiresome. Without going into too much detail yes, Scales said he’d spoken to one Councillor last year about this individual and the reply eventually was that they had looked into it in depth but there's no point in pushing it as person implicated was imminently departing DBC. At which point he said he left it assured that it had been looked at. Then months later he said he learned that in fact the individual was still employed there and had no plan to leave and it looks like they had no plan to exit them either. He confirmed who at DBC had been contacted. At that point he said he sent the Tweet accusing DBC of not taking any action. Then it all went mad. Subsequently it’s believed that one of the people they tried to leg over realized that the texts Tweeted related to them and they may or may not have contacted the police following that. The interesting point in all of this is that despite the number of posts relating to these public accusations (which still can be read on Twitter) that have been taken down on this forum allegedly on “legal advice” there seems to be no current legal action from what can be ascertained and hence no need for any real caution as Scales’ claims and screenshots have now been published by Gef, Manx Radio & 3fm at least - so it is actual “news” that is freely in the public domain. It’s just seems that it’s news that cannot be directly referenced on this forum in any shape or form without threats of removals or bans. As clarified previously evidence was sent to the F&L email address on at least 4 “legal opinions” offered at the time of banning or suspending posters and removing content from this forum. Edited February 4, 2023 by FANDL 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Not sure what everyone expects. If there is a whiff of criminal activity, it should have been reported to the police but DBC are not going to announce that in case it prejudices any investigation. Alternatively, it may have been investigated and nothing untoward found. Or what was found fell short of a criminal matter, and is a personnel matter, which again they aren't going to shout about. Or it is still being investigated and any announcement is premature. The last possible interpretation is that they are doing their best to cover up. In any of these cases, do you really expect an announcement now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGarrison Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 17 minutes ago, Gladys said: Not sure what everyone expects. If there is a whiff of criminal activity, it should have been reported to the police but DBC are not going to announce that in case it prejudices any investigation. And yet the Council Leader seems to be more concerned about being constantly in the newspapers for this mad wild goose chase https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/investigation-into-apparent-hacking-of-council-leaders-email-586580 Than for trying to sort out, or offer opinions or public comment on, allegations that real crooks might be employed by them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 minute ago, MrGarrison said: And yet the Council Leader seems to be more concerned about being constantly in the newspapers for this mad wild goose chase https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/investigation-into-apparent-hacking-of-council-leaders-email-586580 Than for trying to sort out, or offer opinions or public comment on, allegations that real crooks might be employed by them. That's a month ago now and in relation to another matter. Not sure of your point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGarrison Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 4 hours ago, BriT said: That and pushing Roundel based news alerts that cover negative issues to do with everything else to to with the IOM except those he might be indirectly responsible for. Well let’s go with the Roundel based ‘entertainment’ for a minute. When is a local social media star and self proclaimed local politics celebrity shown not to be a local social media star at all? The viewing figures of the new roundel based piffle is incredibly low. Less than 200 viewers on Twitter per installment in particular and then advised to stop linking on here to try to improve viewing figures as John Wright appears to have offered some personal advice. This forum is either an unedited platform or it isn’t. It can’t exist just to throw shit at other people and provide false positive coverage of connected issues without being shown to be fundamentally failed as a reliable alternative news platform. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 2 hours ago, FANDL said: Don’t want to get involved in this anymore to any great degree but you paged the thread. Writing critical pieces on professional politicians is so much more engaging than the pathetic shitstorm that the amateurs create which is just tiresome. Without going into too much detail yes, Scales said he’d spoken to one Councillor last year about this individual and the reply eventually was that they had looked into it in depth but there's no point in pushing it as person implicated was imminently departing DBC. At which point he said he left it assured that it had been looked at. Then months later he said he learned that in fact the individual was still employed there and had no plan to leave and it looks like they had no plan to exit them either. He confirmed who at DBC had been contacted. At that point he said he sent the Tweet accusing DBC of not taking any action. Then it all went mad. Subsequently it’s believed that one of the people they tried to leg over realized that the texts Tweeted related to them and they may or may not have contacted the police following that. The interesting point in all of this is that despite the number of posts relating to these public accusations (which still can be read on Twitter) that have been taken down on this forum allegedly on “legal advice” there seems to be no current legal action from what can be ascertained and hence no need for any real caution as Scales’ claims and screenshots have now been published by Gef, Manx Radio & 3fm at least - so it is actual “news” that is freely in the public domain. It’s just seems that it’s news that cannot be directly referenced on this forum in any shape or form without threats of removals or bans. As clarified previously evidence was sent to the F&L email address on at least 4 “legal opinions” offered at the time of banning or suspending posters and removing content from this forum. Thanks for clarifying. I went back and looked and I see there’s specific addresses mentioned in the screenshots that were posted too. It can’t be too hard for DBC to verify some of this, surely? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriT Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 41 minutes ago, MrGarrison said: Well let’s go with the Roundel based ‘entertainment’ for a minute. When is a local social media star and self proclaimed local politics celebrity shown not to be a local social media star at all? The viewing figures of the new roundel based piffle is incredibly low. Less than 200 viewers on Twitter per installment in particular and then advised to stop linking on here to try to improve viewing figures as John Wright appears to have offered some personal advice. This forum is either an unedited platform or it isn’t. It can’t exist just to throw shit at other people and provide false positive coverage of connected issues without being shown to be fundamentally failed as a reliable alternative news platform. Yes sort of my point. Well said. Actually it’s a good example as Josem has a much bigger social media reach than he has across the board and he’s still failed to get in to Tynwald. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, BriT said: Yes sort of my point. Well said. Actually it’s a good example as Josem has a much bigger social media reach than he has across the board and he’s still failed to get in to Tynwald. They both have better reach than most MHKs. Logic doesn't really follow. As Josem established, you don't win an IOM election on social media unfortunately. Gotta knock on barn doors. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, NoTailT said: Gotta knock on barn doors. No prospective politician has bothered to knock on my door. I suppose that's because I don't live in a barn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Two-lane said: No prospective politician has bothered to knock on my door. I suppose that's because I don't live in a barn. My wife suggests I live in one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: My wife suggests I live in one You animal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGarrison Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 41 minutes ago, NoTailT said: Logic doesn't really follow. As Josem established, you don't win an IOM election on social media unfortunately. Yes but they think they do. At least Josem is still just weird old Josem not some Nikki Lauda style local entrepreneur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 minute ago, MrGarrison said: Yes but they think they do. At least Josem is still just weird old Josem not some Nikki Lauda style local entrepreneur. Better than a bitter local troll. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGarrison Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Amadeus said: Better than a bitter local troll. What a quick reply Nikki. Not bitter at all just ultimately found where the Wizard of Oz lives behind that green velvet curtain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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