Two-lane Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 The Peggy is already in a building with a controlled environment, and is possibly in a building in which the masts can be erected (if that is essential). "https://manxnationalheritage.im/whats-on/detail/behind-the-scenes-at-the-peggy/" I would guess that the £5 million plus does not take into account the money spent on that building, nor on the preservation work (which does not mean that I am against the preservation, just that one should look at the total cost of this project). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Two-lane said: The Peggy is already in a building with a controlled environment, and is possibly in a building in which the masts can be erected (if that is essential). "https://manxnationalheritage.im/whats-on/detail/behind-the-scenes-at-the-peggy/" I would guess that the £5 million plus does not take into account the money spent on that building, nor on the preservation work (which does not mean that I am against the preservation, just that one should look at the total cost of this project). Unless it's going to sail anywhere then the masts aren't essential. Easily looking at £10m being spunked away on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, 0bserver said: Unless it's going to sail anywhere then the masts aren't essential. It depends how you define the word "essential". From another thread: Re: Peggy - Two years ago Manx National Heritage Chairman Jonathan Hall said the costs would be "north of 5 million". Add inflation to that. He also said "the advice from the experts is that you must show her fully rigged". That accounts for the height of the proposed structure. The masts may still be there but the sails are long gone, so they will be modern replicas. Of course there is the possibility that they could display the boat in the way that it had lain for the last God-knows number of years. And who is going to clean the windows of this structure? I suppose they plan to use self-cleaning glass, but I wonder if Pilkington has done tests with Manx seagulls around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, Two-lane said: It depends how you define the word "essential". From another thread: Re: Peggy - Two years ago Manx National Heritage Chairman Jonathan Hall said the costs would be "north of 5 million". Add inflation to that. He also said "the advice from the experts is that you must show her fully rigged". That accounts for the height of the proposed structure. The masts may still be there but the sails are long gone, so they will be modern replicas. Of course there is the possibility that they could display the boat in the way that it had lain for the last God-knows number of years. And who is going to clean the windows of this structure? I suppose they plan to use self-cleaning glass, but I wonder if Pilkington has done tests with Manx seagulls around. Essentials - Health, Education, Infrastructure, Security Nice to Haves - anything MNH related. There's nothing at all in their entire inventory that is essential. Even if Peel Castle were to be washed away in a storm, it still wouldn't be 'essential'. The money is running out and we all need to wise up. 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wake Up Call Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Ever thought about why you never see what visitors make of all this junk we're trying to showcase? The Quango's of the most out of touch sloths on the Island are wasting our cash. The drearfest Peggy will slot in nicely with the visit to the knackered House of Manannan and inaccessible/dull Laxey Wheel. Speaking of wheels - check out the accessibility for those who have mobility problems. WTF are they doing? A simple survey of what visitors want will reveal decent hotels, cheap ale, nice bars and eateries and exciting attractions. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 7 hours ago, GD4ELI said: £5 million for a new palace to keep Peggy in. Total waste of money. A new home in Castletown for historic vessel Peggy | iomtoday.co.im Why is it whenever 'total waste of money' and 'Castletown' are used together in a sentence Tony Brown turns out to be involved? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) They should let Gawne's mate, Captain Webb deal with it. Edited January 19, 2023 by quilp 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, Ham_N_Eggs said: Why is it whenever 'total waste of money' and 'Castletown' are used together in a sentence Tony Brown turns out to be involved? Is he still trying to get people to fund that asbestos hall in Janets Corner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Export it to Windermere to sit with its' sister ship where it can stay in the same museum. http://peggy-of-castletown.blogspot.com/2013/03/a-sister-for-peggy.html?m=1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Moorhouse gets his wish but still not sure of funding arrangements https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/the-peggy-to-return-to-castletown-by-2025/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Aiming for 2 years time ………….. will be much longer if history of Manx Capital Projects. Will be be kept to budget? Will there be enough workers to complete the project. This island can’t look after is own residents needs, it can’t afford swimming pools, so perhaps Southern Swimming Pool would be the natural home of the PEGGY? Maybe it will save the taxpayers a few quid? When the island is really struggling financially and tough choices are meted to the public, people will rise up against Moorehouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, 2112 said: Aiming for 2 years time ………….. will be much longer if history of Manx Capital Projects. Will be be kept to budget? Will there be enough workers to complete the project. This island can’t look after is own residents needs, it can’t afford swimming pools, so perhaps Southern Swimming Pool would be the natural home of the PEGGY? Maybe it will save the taxpayers a few quid? When the island is really struggling financially and tough choices are meted to the public, people will rise up against Moorehouse. Imagine an angry mob of the GMP dragging the Peggy into Castletown Square and burning it on a big bonfire in protest! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 26 minutes ago, 0bserver said: Imagine an angry mob of the GMP dragging the Peggy into Castletown Square and burning it on a big bonfire in protest! Regional Warm Space Hub, complete with catering - jacket potato! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, 2112 said: Regional Warm Space Hub, complete with catering - jacket potato! Probably eligible for a government grant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsmeee Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) If the people of Castletown are so desperate to have Peggy back, maybe they should pay for it in their rates. MNH haven’t got the money and as far as I’m aware they have no concrete plans as to where they’re going to get it. I doubt the government will cough up the whole £5mill or even a decent proportion of it. Edited January 20, 2023 by Itsmeee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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