Westmoreland Village

[hissingsid]

Of course the residents are riled up they are used to parking outside their own front doors and who can blame them, the problem is Hillside Avenue like Willaston and Pulrose was built in the day when very few people owned cars and there was no driveways built with the properties.   If they want this project to succeed they will have to forget the office space and have more parking facilities, there is loads of office space for rent on the Island atm.

[2112]

3 hours ago, hissingsid said:

Of course the residents are riled up they are used to parking outside their own front doors and who can blame them, the problem is Hillside Avenue like Willaston and Pulrose was built in the day when very few people owned cars and there was no driveways built with the properties.   If they want this project to succeed they will have to forget the office space and have more parking facilities, there is loads of office space for rent on the Island atm.

Crookall House could be flattened and the site and car park used to create more housing. I’ve heard that even with being reimagined and repurposed, Crookall House life expectancy is estimated to last for another 25 years. Is that work and disruption worth the expense, and long term vision? I could understand if the building was razed, and a new purpose built office development was proposed, with a quality anchor long term tenant - not IOMG civil servants. I doubt this will happen as IOMG through its MDC has a romantic view of Crookall House, from a historical and architectural aspect. 

[Max Power]

11 hours ago, BriT said:

Formula Fastfit is a trading business, James Caines is a trading business, the scout hall is an actively used facility. Tracy Bells practice on Westmoreland Road is a trading business. How in any way is that compatible with saying this is a brown field development?

 

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What is a greenfield project vs brownfield?

• Typically, what a greenfield project entails is development on a completely vacant site. Architects start completely from scratch. A brownfield project is one that carries constraints related to the current state of the site.

 

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Edited May 24, 2023 by Max Power

[Ativa]

29 minutes ago, 2112 said:

Crookall House could be flattened and the site and car park used to create more housing. I’ve heard that even with being reimagined and repurposed, Crookall House life expectancy is estimated to last for another 25 years. Is that work and disruption worth the expense, and long term vision? I could understand if the building was razed, and a new purpose built office development was proposed, with a quality anchor long term tenant - not IOMG civil servants. I doubt this will happen as IOMG through its MDC has a romantic view of Crookall House, from a historical and architectural aspect. 

Where did you hear that load of bollocks?

[Zarley]

34 minutes ago, Ativa said:

Where did you hear that load of bollocks?

Down the pub. You know the one, the Cock and Bollock. 

Edited May 24, 2023 by Zarley

[Albert Tatlock]

38 minutes ago, Zarley said:

Down the pub. You know the one, the Cock and Bollock. 

You only ever hear one side down there.

 

[Omobono]

1 hour ago, Ativa said:

Where did you hear that load of bollocks?

Chris Thomas  stated the Nurses home after refurbishment only had a life expectancy  of 20 to 25 years at the public meeting Rose mount  Trinity church hall   that was called by residents who opposed the scheme because it was thought to be over intensive and completely disregarded the Eastern sector plan  and failed miserably to meet the current parking criteria 

[hissingsid]

Over intensive that is strange it is downtown Douglas where the majority of people used to live.   They are a City now if they want space there is plenty down North.

[Mercenary]

1 hour ago, offshoremanxman said:

It probably would have been cheaper to drop the nurses home too and just replace. 

Could be going the route of 'Trigger's Broom' at the minute with the top floor seemingly demolished

[Alberttwatmunch]

5 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said:

So they won’t be publishing or paying any attention to all the feedback from residents who don’t support this then?

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/douglas-council-support-crookall-house-planning-application/

The people who are making the decisions and who are in possession of all the plans for Douglas over the next few years know that this is a good thing and that the perceived issues will be overcome with other development that is in the pipeline.

The clues are in the article.

[Banker]

1 minute ago, Alberttwatmunch said:

The people who are making the decisions and who are in possession of all the plans for Douglas over the next few years know that this is a good thing and that the perceived issues will be overcome with other development that is in the pipeline.

The clues are in the article.

It’s a good development of brownfield sites & brings much needed housing in Douglas but lots of progress/DBC haters against it

[Alberttwatmunch]

4 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said:

Most of the people in the surrounding areas though have objected. Nice to know that their objections count for nothing and an unelected council leader can just ignore their feedback. 

It’s not up to the council to listen to their objections.  That is not how the planning process works.

[Alberttwatmunch]

1 minute ago, offshoremanxman said:

“Despite objections by councillors about parking issues the first condition is a payment to the council if the Manx Development Coporation cannot improve community spaces”

So basically they can be bought off and then just shut their shoulders.

 

Yes you are definitely right. 🙄

[2112]

To be fair the Westmorland Road and Demesne Road Development will probably end up in the hands of DBC who will probably manage the properties. It will probably end up another Corpy council estate, an extension of Hillside. 

[Manxman1234]

Passed old nursing home other day and lost oks like removed top floor from It