Westmoreland Village

[Omobono]

they must have spent £500 K with the scaffolding costs alone , little or no work taking place  . if it was a private developer doing this work they would have gone bankrupt by now , something not quite right about this project   which must  be very poor value for money for the taxpayer 

[Dirty Buggane]

The last sentence sum's up the governments attitude to every thing they are involved in.

The reverse midas touch. Everything they plan or touch turns to shite, !

[Roger Mexico]

1 hour ago, Omobono said:

they must have spent £500 K with the scaffolding costs alone , little or no work taking place  . if it was a private developer doing this work they would have gone bankrupt by now , something not quite right about this project   which must  be very poor value for money for the taxpayer 

I think it's like the Prom.  These projects are more about being seen to do something and about keeping favoured contractors busy than about achieving anything or even knowing what you want to achieve.  So work gets started without any proper advance planning and no one knows what they are doing.

[cissolt]

8 hours ago, Roger Mexico said:

I think it's like the Prom.  These projects are more about being seen to do something and about keeping favoured contractors busy than about achieving anything or even knowing what you want to achieve.  So work gets started without any proper advance planning and no one knows what they are doing.

And no budget?  I've worked on several large projects and for repeated DOI Ministers to claim there is no budget or running total of costs for the prom is an outright lie.

[english zloty]

13 hours ago, Omobono said:

they must have spent £500 K with the scaffolding costs alone , little or no work taking place  . if it was a private developer doing this work they would have gone bankrupt by now , something not quite right about this project   which must  be very poor value for money for the taxpayer 

There are those who might think £6.5 million for 37 apartments is a bit on the steep side 🤣🤣

[Dirty Buggane]

Oh I don't know, get down to Kensington in London they would be an absolute steal.

[CrazyDave]

21 hours ago, english zloty said:

There are those who might think £6.5 million for 37 apartments is a bit on the steep side 🤣🤣

It really doesn’t seem expensive?  Do you think that is a lot for the level of finish and the eco benefits they are claiming?

[english zloty]

3 hours ago, CrazyDave said:

It really doesn’t seem expensive?  Do you think that is a lot for the level of finish and the eco benefits they are claiming?

Only about twice as much as it's worth. Even bending the rules so that no affordable housing is required (why that's fine for MDC and no one else is another question), I digress, it's a lot per small apartment.

 

[2112]

Has anyone seen the new laminate boards ‘advertising’ this development and using buzzwords sustainable living etc? Great if the development was being targeted at FTB etc, but it isn’t, it’s being aimed at nominated IOMG et al key workers, and other housing will be a glorified Corpy Estate. They could have tidied up the hoardings without wasting funds. 

[Banker]

2 hours ago, 2112 said:

Has anyone seen the new laminate boards ‘advertising’ this development and using buzzwords sustainable living etc? Great if the development was being targeted at FTB etc, but it isn’t, it’s being aimed at nominated IOMG et al key workers, and other housing will be a glorified Corpy Estate. They could have tidied up the hoardings without wasting funds. 

Thanks Mr Negative!

[Cueey Lewis And The News]

On 10/6/2023 at 9:15 AM, CrazyDave said:

It really doesn’t seem expensive?  Do you think that is a lot for the level of finish and the eco benefits they are claiming?

Not to a fantasist living inside their own head. But to a real person who actually deals in real life things they haven’t completely made up that’s probably a bit steep really: 

[2112]

If anyone sees the pictures on the hoardings outside the old nurses home, one of which is a swanky kitchen, with lots of buzzwords like contemporary living, sustainable and eco, I would love to know how long it’s going to take to recoup the outlay, from the rental income. Considering this is rental only for ‘key worker’ so presumably, they will have fixed term leases and then be expected to find alternative accommodation after their lease expires?
 

When they vacate, and depending on how they leave the property, some people are clean, tidy and respectful and others live like dirty animals, misbehaving as well. 

[Cueey Lewis And The News]

1 hour ago, 2112 said:

When they vacate, and depending on how they leave the property, some people are clean, tidy and respectful and others live like dirty animals, misbehaving as well. 

The key worker village is perfect IOM Government doomed self fuelling economics though if you think about it. The great blocker on more IOM recruitment is largely accommodation costs so here they’ll look after their own new imported workers so they can employ more. All being brought in on NI subsidy schemes and taxpayer funded relocation packages as well. So they’ll bring them in to pay rent to them as their landlord funded by their 100% taxpayer funded salaries to pay off debt to treasury funneled through loans made to the MDC that will need to be repaid to Treasury - so the taxpayer is basically paying the taxpayer back for all the taxpayer money it’s borrowed over 30 odd years or more via taxpayer funded wages. In the meantime there will be less and less accommodation for real people working in the private sector funding new taxes and revenue. It’s the perfect self funding taxpayer rip off scheme so that they can look after their own recruitment needs with other peoples money. 

They’ve got to build increased capacity for the ever increasing taxpayer subsidized hoardes:

https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/isle-of-man-government-staff-numbers-rise-by-more-than-700-in-seven-years-652305

Edited November 28, 2023 by Cueey Lewis And The News

[The Phantom]

On 10/4/2023 at 10:46 PM, Dirty Buggane said:

The reverse midas touch. Everything they plan or touch turns to shite, !

What about IRIS?  That was shite and stayed shite after they touched it. 

Well actually it works reasonably well (just not in Laxey, Peel etc).

[Dirty Buggane]

I will not have a word said against IRIS.        Had my slice 36 months on the prom tanks, never be poor again in my life till I drank it. Money not the sewage, good times 70 hour weeks.