0bserver Posted January 22, 2023 Author Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 hours ago, randyandy said: The negativity when anyone tries to make progress on this post little island is embarrassing! Do you think that money spent if it is 3 million will generate more or less than 3million in additional income across the whole site when it’s complete? Of course it will. More property to sell or rent and the properties will also be more attractive because they won’t have scabby old buildings in the middle of the development. Its great new for Douglas and don’t worry about Park Road as that will be following soon Just demolish most of Upper Douglas and it will be a blank canvas for development. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Montgomery Burns Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Satan666 said: Whole heartedly agree with that. Plenty of missed opportunities. The more you deal with planning on this island you realize that half of them are just lazy or egotistical, and the other half of them are on the take. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, C Montgomery Burns said: The more you deal with planning on this island you realize that half of them are just lazy or egotistical, and the other half of them are on the take. It’s just wrong. They need to employ more from private sector, people who genuinely can make a difference, want to and have no axe to grind / power trip. According to the bin lorry driver I was speaking with last week, he said that’s exactly what DBC have just employed. Said they’re already starting to shake it up but they’ve got a lot of obstacles to get over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 10 minutes ago, Satan666 said: According to the bin lorry driver I was speaking with last week, he said that’s exactly what DBC have just employed. Said they’re already starting to shake it up but they’ve got a lot of obstacles to get over. Oops! Don’t mention DBC - I mentioned them once but I think I got away with it… 😉 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Jarndyce said: Oops! Don’t mention DBC - I mentioned them once but I think I got away with it… 😉 Do you know, I think I have!😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Pitts was on Manx Radio this morning objecting to this plan because of lack of parking obviously some of his constituents in Hillside Ave and around about have been on to him. Everyone does not drive or want to, lots of people cannot afford a car and these are the people hopefully that this village is aimed at. If you consider a car essential then rent elsewhere if you are a cyclist, prepared to walk although there are busses passing through the proposed site then it is for you. The complete negativity from people when any proposals are put forward is the very reason things don’t happen. A roof over your head at a decent cost is a dream for some and I hope this plan comes to fruition. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercenary Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, hissingsid said: Pitts was on Manx Radio this morning objecting to this plan because of lack of parking obviously some of his constituents in Hillside Ave and around about have been on to him. Everyone does not drive or want to, lots of people cannot afford a car and these are the people hopefully that this village is aimed at. If you consider a car essential then rent elsewhere if you are a cyclist, prepared to walk although there are busses passing through the proposed site then it is for you. The complete negativity from people when any proposals are put forward is the very reason things don’t happen. A roof over your head at a decent cost is a dream for some and I hope this plan comes to fruition. Is the proposal that these dwellings won't be eligible for resident's passes on that basis? I think that was the case with the Brown Bobby flats, various apartments on the Prom (with garages) etc. If not it's all well and good saying that but once built will be even more of a free-for-all for the resident's you've mentioned with potentially 300 additional cars or similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 As Douglas is now a city 🤣 it is reasonable to promote buildings without parking provided, other cities do not have parking facilities on their doorstep. I know a good many people who do not have cars, mostly elderly, and who is to say they won’t be interested in buying a unit and freeing up a large house which is becoming very expensive to heat and maintain and live near town. There is a very good bus service serving Bucks Road and it would be easy for them to loop and pass the front doors of these units in fact some of the busses used to do this. What is not to like no garden to worry about and a free bus pass to Douglas bus station and beyond or the Terrace etc. Too much importance given to car spaces it is the accommodation that is badly needed. Pandering to constituents should be discouraged Mr Pitts get the bins sorted and some decent lighting on the Promenade. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Everyone is shouting use brown field sites but all the brown field sites have one thing in common they are in built up areas with limited or no parking…Park Road for example and if parking facilities are provided that will cut down on the amount of dwellings which will affect the viability of the whole project. If you choose to live in a City this is the outcome. Parking spaces are a privilege not a necessity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 21 minutes ago, hissingsid said: Everyone is shouting use brown field sites but all the brown field sites have one thing in common they are in built up areas with limited or no parking…Park Road for example and if parking facilities are provided that will cut down on the amount of dwellings which will affect the viability of the whole project. If you choose to live in a City this is the outcome. Parking spaces are a privilege not a necessity. under normal circumstances a developer would not get planning permission for a residential development unless he could meet the planning criteria , it would be an act of madness to permit development in Douglas without sufficient car parking the criteria is laid down in the planning policy , parking on places like park road could easily provide on site parking by building it underground of on the first floor , after all government own the site and the land value should not be part of the overall development costs , by not providing effective parking ,all thats going to happen is the neighbouring area will become gridlocked with vehicles ,and ruin the surrounding environment which is not good planning ! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Top of a little hill there, could dig a carpark in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshoremanxman Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 21 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Top of a little hill there, could dig a carpark in. At the cost of even more millions yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just build it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 8 hours ago, offshoremanxman said: It’s never going to get built. It’s a vanity project. Yes it is & no it isn’t, it’s an essential project for needed housing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 10 hours ago, hissingsid said: Everyone is shouting use brown field sites but all the brown field sites have one thing in common they are in built up areas with limited or no parking…Park Road for example and if parking facilities are provided that will cut down on the amount of dwellings which will affect the viability of the whole project. If you choose to live in a City this is the outcome. Parking spaces are a privilege not a necessity. the whole ground floor could be parking with the accomodation built above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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