Shake me up Judy Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 I occasionally like to sing it to Monty Python's 'Eric The Half A Bee' tune. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriT Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Roxanne said: But how will you know what they are? Just by the look of someone? Like most people it’s probably worked fine for most of his life until you meet some weird exception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Shake me up Judy said: I'll continue to use the traditional biological pronouns, thanks very much. That's my choice. I find these new ones dehumanising, degrading, dystopian, and a reminder of depersonalised slave terms from less enlightened times. Referring to a trans woman as she is dehumanising? But calling her him against her wishes is a blow against slavery? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ativa Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 3 hours ago, BriT said: Like most people it’s probably worked fine for most of his life until you meet some weird exception. Do you not get out or travel much? Do you have a very restricted social and work circle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 6 hours ago, Shake me up Judy said: I'll continue to use the traditional biological pronouns, thanks very much. That's my choice. I find these new ones dehumanising, degrading, dystopian, and a reminder of depersonalised slave terms from less enlightened times. Pronouns aren't biological though, they're inherently gendered. A washing machine is neither male nor female, but a little old lady may well refer to it as he or she. Ships, cars, you name it. None of them are biologically 'sexed'. Some languages, like Finnish, have no gendered pronouns at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 5 hours ago, BriT said: Like most people it’s probably worked fine for most of his life until you meet some weird exception. It generally works, people might say 'oh, I'm actually a he, not a she' or vice versa and that's that if you get it wrong. But if you knew Susie as Jimmy a long time ago and keep calling them Jimmy on purpose, despite them asking you not to? That's just being a dick about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genericUserName Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 6 hours ago, Shake me up Judy said: I'll continue to use the traditional biological pronouns, thanks very much. That's my choice. I find these new ones dehumanising, degrading, dystopian, and a reminder of depersonalised slave terms from less enlightened times. How did this become such a big issue for you that you even care slightly? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 hour ago, AcousticallyChallenged said: Pronouns aren't biological though, they're inherently gendered. A washing machine is neither male nor female, but a little old lady may well refer to it as he or she. Ships, cars, you name it. None of them are biologically 'sexed'. Some languages, like Finnish, have no gendered pronouns at all. I don’t know if this would help :- Tricky part: French people often use "machine à laver" - which is feminine - to talk about the washing machine, yet it's really called "lave-linge" - which is masculine. Probably not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Colombe Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 On 4/24/2023 at 9:58 PM, La Colombe said: So drag trumps anti racism in the frothy mouth stakes. The absolute state of this thread! Ok, you've all had long enough now! Fail. You lot will spend hour after hour pointlessly arguing about things you clearly have bugger all actual engagement with. I'm out. You crack on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piebaps Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 2 hours ago, La Colombe said: I'm out. You crack on. Praise the lord 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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