x-in-man Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 ..and so the jizz-fest of consultancy spending begins. Manx Utilities is looking to engage the services of a competent Cost Consultant to assist in focussing on project costs and value, early in the project life-cycle, by providing high-level strategic cost advice supported through effective cost planning and modelling for the Manx Utilities Energy Transition Programme. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, asitis said: The main impediment to inaction on the community / personal / island renewables policy, over many years, has been the MEA debt ! Circumstances however are changing and overriding the financials. Please , please , please, this time for gods sake get the right advice before you cock up again Gov. And God-forbid any renewables project becoming another Liverpool Terminal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Non-Believer said: And God-forbid any renewables project becoming another Liverpool Terminal. Sadly almost guaranteed ! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 23 minutes ago, The Phantom said: They weren't just weirs, the flow got diverted, stored, re-directed and whilst it does still go back into the river ultimately, it's journey is delayed whilst it flows around the millrace (lades) system. There are actually a couple of abandoned reservoirs around Lonan for that purpose (and the boating lake). Again, probably would at least delay the influx of water a little bit. We're not talking about an Amazonian catchment area. The flooding from big downpours realistically only lasts a few hours maybe and if that outflow is spread over a slightly longer timeframe, then there would be potentially less flooding? The mines also had water pumped out of them back in the day, so potentially would have acted as a sink for excess water in flooding, whereas the mines are all full up with water now. Or climate change has screwed it all up and we just get a shit load more rain at any one time. I see. Yes that makes sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatnonsence Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 53 minutes ago, x-in-man said: ..and so the jizz-fest of consultancy spending begins. Manx Utilities is looking to engage the services of a competent Cost Consultant to assist in focussing on project costs and value, early in the project life-cycle, by providing high-level strategic cost advice supported through effective cost planning and modelling for the Manx Utilities Energy Transition Programme. It’s just a terrifying prospect of our government being involved in any capital project in the wake of the recent Steam Packet fiascos with the terminal and new boat the promenade development. Looking back into the past their last involvement with the MEA was a classic in the misuse of public funds raising huge debt also the sewage disposal system a huge failure which cost millions. Why on earth should we have any confidence in our government to be able to properly manage our future with a proper energy policy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, Whatnonsence said: It’s just a terrifying prospect of our government being involved in any capital project in the wake of the recent Steam Packet fiascos with the terminal and new boat the promenade development. Looking back into the past their last involvement with the MEA was a classic in the misuse of public funds raising huge debt also the sewage disposal system a huge failure which cost millions. Why on earth should we have any confidence in our government to be able to properly manage our future with a proper energy policy Is the Steam Packet a fiasco? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Albert Tatlock said: Adjustable weirs commonly control water levels. True. An adjustable weir can be used to control an upstream level. It cannot control a downstream level. It has no use whatsoever in flood prevention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 50 minutes ago, Whatnonsence said: It’s just a terrifying prospect of our government being involved in any capital project in the wake of the recent Steam Packet fiascos with the terminal and new boat the promenade development. Looking back into the past their last involvement with the MEA was a classic in the misuse of public funds raising huge debt also the sewage disposal system a huge failure which cost millions. Why on earth should we have any confidence in our government to be able to properly manage our future with a proper energy policy Who else could we trust? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Is this being funded by the sustainability bond? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Just now, Gladys said: Is this being funded by the sustainability bond? Perhaps it will be a means of testing the bond itself for sustainability 🤭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted February 15, 2023 Author Share Posted February 15, 2023 2 hours ago, x-in-man said: ..and so the jizz-fest of consultancy spending begins. Manx Utilities is looking to engage the services of a competent Cost Consultant to assist in focussing on project costs and value, early in the project life-cycle, by providing high-level strategic cost advice supported through effective cost planning and modelling for the Manx Utilities Energy Transition Programme. I guess that will be KPMG. They seem to be flavour of the week with IOM government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Moghrey Mie said: I guess that will be KPMG. They seem to be flavour of the week with IOM government. A week is a long time in politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Moghrey Mie said: I guess that will be KPMG. They seem to be flavour of the week with IOM government. Unless they've got Mike Proffitt lined up for an encore... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expat. Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 4 hours ago, TheTeapot said: They're such backward assholes, all of them. There's been a decades long reluctance to even consider wind from the MEA, no drive from any politicians, no imagination shown by anyone, anywhere. We had loads of millraces once, look at an old map. If I were involved in decision making I'd have reached out to the right people, said look, we want to reopen 20 or so of these and stick turbines on them, move part of your firm here, set up a little factory here's some nice space at a decent rate, use this really cool and clever project to sell your stuff around the world. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_hydro) Bet no one has ever even considered it. It's also obviously always windy, so it pisses me off no end to see thousands of them east and none here. Businesses are all going on about carbon footprints and green shit, they'd all be loving a nice mix of renewable sources. It all should have started happening years ago. You could be on to something. Small scale hydro power schemes are all over the place around this neck of the woods. Gilkes Energy | Coniston Project No input for Government obviously. They're all the result of individual community initiatives. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 44 minutes ago, Gladys said: Is this being funded by the sustainability bond? No. James Bond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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