Andy Onchan Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, Happier diner said: People put led bulbs in headlight units that are not designed for them. It's an MOT failure in the UK. Led lights need bespoke units and then you don't get the issue. Putting them in the wrong unit leads to an incorrect dispersion of the light. Blinding on coming drivers. I agree but brand new cars are the worst. Much more worserer! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genericUserName Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: I agree but brand new cars are the worst. Much more worserer! There will be a whole generation of vehicles requiring costly retrofitting when the legislation catches up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 18 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Not really. The limit here is 105db I think. UK 72db. 105db is very very loud. The UK specifically allows loud exhausts come MOT time though. There’s no hard limit, it depends simply on what the tester would call reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 19 minutes ago, Happier diner said: People put led bulbs in headlight units that are not designed for them. It's an MOT failure in the UK. Led lights need bespoke units and then you don't get the issue. Putting them in the wrong unit leads to an incorrect dispersion of the light. Blinding on coming drivers. OSRAM actually have a new program where they’re certifying combinations of their bulbs and particular cars with authorities in European countries. https://www.osram.com/am/night-breaker-led.jsp For example, in Germany, there are quite a few vehicles you can legally and safely retrofit, as the combination has been certified as meeting all the requirements. Despite reflector headlights. It’s the cheap and nasty Chinese specials that are the real issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, genericUserName said: There will be a whole generation of vehicles requiring costly retrofitting when the legislation catches up. Legislation like that tends to only apply to vehicles made from that point forward. For example, when DRLs were made mandatory, nobody had to retrofit them. Cars made before 1986 for example, don’t have to have BS marked headlight bulbs, as the requirement wasn’t a legal one before that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 30 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Not really. The limit here is 105db I think. UK 72db. 105db is very very loud. According to the Roads Policing Unit there is no limit in legislation here 🤷♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Have they gotten someone again who can actually use the kit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, skins said: According to the Roads Policing Unit there is no limit in legislation here 🤷♂️ If you put in for a Manx test, they test it to make sure it’s under 98dB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted February 18, 2023 Author Share Posted February 18, 2023 1 hour ago, AcousticallyChallenged said: The UK specifically allows loud exhausts come MOT time though. There’s no hard limit, it depends simply on what the tester would call reasonable. https://www.essex.police.uk/foi-ai/essex-police/our-policies-and-procedures/h/h0504-procedure---loud-exhaust-offences/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted February 18, 2023 Author Share Posted February 18, 2023 1 hour ago, AcousticallyChallenged said: The UK specifically allows loud exhausts come MOT time though. There’s no hard limit, it depends simply on what the tester would call reasonable. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-for-private-passenger-and-light-commercial-vehicles/8-nuisance#:~:text=Exhaust noise from the vehicle,standard silencer in average condition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Happier diner said: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-for-private-passenger-and-light-commercial-vehicles/8-nuisance#:~:text=Exhaust noise from the vehicle,standard silencer in average condition You must use your judgement to assess exhaust noise: Exhaust noise from the vehicle must not be unreasonably above the noise level you’d expect from a similar vehicle with a standard silencer in average condition. The test is entirely subjective, down to how close the tester is stood, how they feel that day and whether in general, they mind loud exhausts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted February 18, 2023 Author Share Posted February 18, 2023 27 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said: You must use your judgement to assess exhaust noise: Exhaust noise from the vehicle must not be unreasonably above the noise level you’d expect from a similar vehicle with a standard silencer in average condition. The test is entirely subjective, down to how close the tester is stood, how they feel that day and whether in general, they mind loud exhausts. I know its subjective but, Jesus. They would not pass the exhaust of the prat with the disproportionately small penis that drives around ballakermeen school on the lunchtime. You can hear it all the way back to pully. No way would that pass an MOT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampsterkahn Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) Perhaps noisy exhausts( on some vehicles) enhance road safety? The danger of the sudden, silent appearance of a Pratmobile and its immature , sociopathic driver is lessened by such an advanced warning. Edited February 18, 2023 by hampsterkahn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted February 18, 2023 Author Share Posted February 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, hampsterkahn said: Perhaps noisy exhausts( on some vehicles) enhance road safety? The danger of the sudden, silent appearance of a Pratmobile and its immature , sociopathic driver is lessened by such an advanced warning. That's true. Also knowing in advance that the driver is likely to have a small penis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampsterkahn Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Happier diner said: That's true. Also knowing in advance that the driver is likely to have a small penis. Well, they might not have one at all, I suppose, but it does seems that the perpetrators are males, if not all of a certain age, then certainly of a similar level of maturity. Given that profile, if by some means such behaviour became unfashionable, uncool (or what ever the latest term) - something to be laughed at and ridiculed, the trend would disappear almost overnight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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