RecklessAbandon Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Manchester airport: Videos of police beating men spark outcry as force reports itself to watchdog | CNN I would suggest (from my arm chair), stomping on the head of an already restrained person is not in any training material any police force of good repute would use. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 1 hour ago, Albert Tatlock said: I'd waiting for a fuller investigation before making any judgement. If 3 officers were injured (one with a broken nose), then there was a danger that one of the perpetrators could have got hold of a police weapon, and there was a danger of this potentially being something else entirely...then yes, faced with that it is down to an officer to use what he sees as reasonable force. Life's not a video game you can rewind and have another go on, but many judging this seem to think it is and base their opinion on what should have been the correct response, the difference being they now have far more information than those officers did at the time. If you're 'Johnny on the spot' you have to make a split second judgement in a dangerous and violent situation - not one sat in front of TV hours after the fact. The miscreant was lying face-down with his arms in clear view on both sides. The officer was holding a taser that would have seriously incapacitated the guy on the ground at any time. Looks to me like the copper lost it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 No doubt he kicked him. Did he stamp on his head? He stamped very close to it, but it isn't clear to me he stamped on it. Something is also happening with the taser lines. Even with video it often isn't exactly clear what is going on. Another question: does the police woman fire her taser at the guy filming the incident? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Apparently the guy on the ground was from Rochdale. We should all be thankful that they binned Galloway off at the last election or otherwise right now he would be polluting the airways with vast amounts of faux outrage whilst wearing a silly hat... Several hundred Rochdale folks did go to the local nick to voice their disquiet but it seems to have passed off peacefully. Unlike the scenes at Term 2 MAN... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 1 hour ago, P.K. said: Apparently the guy on the ground was from Rochdale. We should all be thankful that they binned Galloway off at the last election or otherwise right now he would be polluting the airways with vast amounts of faux outrage whilst wearing a silly hat... Several hundred Rochdale folks did go to the local nick to voice their disquiet but it seems to have passed off peacefully. Unlike the scenes at Term 2 MAN... They weren't there protesting about the grooming gangs in Rochdale. Strange that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecklessAbandon Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 14 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: They weren't there protesting about the grooming gangs in Rochdale. Strange that Sigh, and what does that have to do with anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 4 minutes ago, RecklessAbandon said: Sigh, and what does that have to do with anything? Just shows the double standards of that community. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecklessAbandon Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 2 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: Just shows the double standards of that community. No, it shows the double standard you are holding that community to. Are you outside a court room protesting every time a white child grooming is on the docket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 22 minutes ago, RecklessAbandon said: No, it shows the double standard you are holding that community to. Are you outside a court room protesting every time a white child grooming is on the docket? No but I'm also not outside a police station when a white guy acts like an animal and gets a booting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 That airport incident is basically how former Aston Villa striker Dalian Atkinson was murdered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 6 hours ago, RecklessAbandon said: Manchester airport: Videos of police beating men spark outcry as force reports itself to watchdog | CNN I would suggest (from my arm chair), stomping on the head of an already restrained person is not in any training material any police force of good repute would use. 5 hours ago, P.K. said: The miscreant was lying face-down with his arms in clear view on both sides. The officer was holding a taser that would have seriously incapacitated the guy on the ground at any time. Looks to me like the copper lost it. I think the problem is that when you have officers who are capable of handling violent suspects, they are not going to be the measured PC Plod type we like to think that our police force is made up of! Police officers have a right to expect to go home to their families at the end of a working day. When they are violently attacked, they are bound to have the adrenaline flowing and have a fear that unless they handle things robustly, they may be putting themselves in further danger. Unfortunately, as we have seen, a measured police response doesn't appear to gain the respect of certain groups of people. I can see things getting worse, much worse, in future! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 8 minutes ago, Max Power said: doesn't appear to gain the respect of certain groups of people. That group of people is called criminals... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecklessAbandon Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 (edited) 17 hours ago, Max Power said: I think the problem is that when you have officers who are capable of handling violent suspects, they are not going to be the measured PC Plod type we like to think that our police force is made up of! Police officers have a right to expect to go home to their families at the end of a working day. When they are violently attacked, they are bound to have the adrenaline flowing and have a fear that unless they handle things robustly, they may be putting themselves in further danger. Unfortunately, as we have seen, a measured police response doesn't appear to gain the respect of certain groups of people. I can see things getting worse, much worse, in future! If PC Plod cannot control themselves in the heat of the moment (i.e. stamping on the head of a restrained person or holding the trigger down for 35 seconds rather than the prescribed 3 seconds on a taser) because of "adrenaline" then they have no place being a police person. That is a thug with a badge. That is how you end up with "warrior mentality" policing like is the state in the US. Edited July 26 by RecklessAbandon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 (edited) 3 hours ago, thommo2010 said: Just shows the double standards of that community. @thommo2010 Actually it shows the double standards of the appalling UK press who know full well that stories about white grooming gangs simply don't shift the same amount of copy. In any event what would you know about that community...? Edited July 25 by P.K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecklessAbandon Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 3 minutes ago, P.K. said: Actually it shows the double standards of the appalling UK press who know full well that stories about white grooming gangs simply don't shift the same amount of copy. In any event what would you know about that community...? Maybe PC Plod was annoyed that some of his mates have been caught kiddy fiddling: Police paedophiles: More than 30 guilty since January 2022 - BBC News 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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