Happier diner Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 12 hours ago, Omobono said: if the road markings are gone surly the DOI are responsible if anyone drives over them and is involved in a traffic accident ,and probably liable as well especially as many of the defects have been reported to the department I have never seen an authority be liable for accidents caused by markings worn off. But I am prepared to stand corrected...as always Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Happier diner said: I have never seen an authority be liable for accidents caused by markings worn off. But I am prepared to stand corrected...as always the police had barely cleared the scene after that fatal crash at the bottom of royal avenue a few years back before the DOI were out there repainting all the missing stop and give way lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 2 hours ago, WTF said: the police had barely cleared the scene after that fatal crash at the bottom of royal avenue a few years back before the DOI were out there repainting all the missing stop and give way lines. Were they found liable? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 23 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Were they found liable? pass, but their actions indicate they felt the need to rectify the matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 34 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Were they found liable? being found liable and actually being fully or partly responsible in the first place aren't the same thing as i'm sure your pedantic self knows full well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 2 hours ago, WTF said: being found liable and actually being fully or partly responsible in the first place aren't the same thing as i'm sure your pedantic self knows full well. the devil is in the detail. Facts speak louder than opinions. I don't disagree though that markings should be better maintained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted May 9, 2023 Author Share Posted May 9, 2023 I do not know if the DoI or DBC is responsible, but I'll go with the DoI for now. A long length of the seaward side of the .prom. by the Summerland site, is now reserved for coaches. I might jump to the conclusion that this is necessary because in the old days coaches would park here and there on the .prom, but now that the horse tram lines have been relocated towards the edge of the road there would be no room between the coach and the horse tram and the traffic. But there is plenty of space for coaches in this new area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ativa Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Two-lane said: I do not know if the DoI or DBC is responsible, but I'll go with the DoI for now. A long length of the seaward side of the .prom. by the Summerland site, is now reserved for coaches. I might jump to the conclusion that this is necessary because in the old days coaches would park here and there on the .prom, but now that the horse tram lines have been relocated towards the edge of the road there would be no room between the coach and the horse tram and the traffic. But there is plenty of space for coaches in this new area. Hasn’t that been there for years? Coaches park there over night and then trundle to the Sefton or wherever in the morning to pick up the blue rinse brigade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted May 9, 2023 Author Share Posted May 9, 2023 Just now, Ativa said: Hasn’t that been there for years? Not to the extent that exists now. I used to park there now and again to take a look at the MER trams. [And in pre-history, I would park there and run to the other end of the .prom and back.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Two-lane said: I do not know if the DoI or DBC is responsible, but I'll go with the DoI for now. A long length of the seaward side of the .prom. by the Summerland site, is now reserved for coaches. I might jump to the conclusion that this is necessary because in the old days coaches would park here and there on the .prom, but now that the horse tram lines have been relocated towards the edge of the road there would be no room between the coach and the horse tram and the traffic. But there is plenty of space for coaches in this new area. I wouldn't worry. Park there. No one will enforce it anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 more big ticket expense planned by the DOI , went to the presentation tonight for the new proposed Living Street zone DOI want to create in part of central Douglas , I guess the cost will be around £350 thousand at the least ,and involve speed bumps on Alexander drive ,cycle routes, one way systems pedestrian crossings , needless to say it appeared to be going down like a lead balloon with many of the residents ,who would be happy it seems, with some form of 20 MPH enforced limit along Westminster Terrace and drive , and the Same along Ballakermeen road , at Ballakermeen school starting and leaving times Talk about taking a sledgehammer to crack a walnut and Devonshire road entrance onto Quarter bridge road would be closed to motor vehicles and only available for cyclists , No sign of Mr Thomas the minister in charge , his department have succeeded in upsetting a lot of people , and this is only the first night of the presentations another Little England scheme when are these boys going to learn the money is running out fast , 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Two-lane said: I do not know if the DoI or DBC is responsible, but I'll go with the DoI for now. A long length of the seaward side of the .prom. by the Summerland site, is now reserved for coaches. I might jump to the conclusion that this is necessary because in the old days coaches would park here and there on the .prom, but now that the horse tram lines have been relocated towards the edge of the road there would be no room between the coach and the horse tram and the traffic. But there is plenty of space for coaches in this new area. I can just see the average coach driver (and they tend to be even older and more rotund than bus drivers) wanting to walk the length of the Prom every morning to pick up his vehicle. And then discover that all the windows are covered with salt and will need cleaning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ativa Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: I can just see the average coach driver (and they tend to be even older and more rotund than bus drivers) wanting to walk the length of the Prom every morning to pick up his vehicle. And then discover that all the windows are covered with salt and will need cleaning. They have done it for the last 20 plus years, so what is the issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercenary Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 26 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: I can just see the average coach driver (and they tend to be even older and more rotund than bus drivers) wanting to walk the length of the Prom every morning to pick up his vehicle. And then discover that all the windows are covered with salt and will need cleaning. Well if they can't put up with that they shouldn't be a coach driver! What's better, having coaches looking abandoned all down the prom in front of hotels / guesthouses blocking all the 'sea views'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 as if we didn't have enough crap to contend with on the roads ,Manx radio announced this morning that the DOI are going to allow Electric scooters to be used , this is after many European countries including the city of Paris have recently banned them because of the dangers to pedestrians and other road users , with all the problems they are inflicting on the motoring public , here is another woke form of transport , that I doubt will ever be properly controlled ,and no doubt its use will be abused and someone will get hurt or even worse , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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