DOI fails again

[Happier diner]

Just now, TheTeapot said:

Eh what?

What did a contractor that's not the DOI leave behind. Was it coal tar?

[Fred the shred]

It apparently was abandoned in a skip for 7 months , people took exception, not really surprised.

[Happier diner]

40 minutes ago, A fool and his money..... said:

I'd be interested to hear how you get on with it before trying it myself.

The cancer doesn't develop for years so you need a long term assessment

https://www.nhs.uk/medicines/coal-tar/common-questions-about-coal-tar/#:~:text=Studies have shown that some,UVB radiation has been reported.

 

[TheTeapot]

7 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

What did a contractor that's not the DOI leave behind. Was it coal tar?

I didn't know what exactly it was until this story came out today. I had assumed that it was just all the rubble from digging up the road, and had wondered when someone was eventually going to do something about it, there's been a full skip with tote bags piled on top sat there since the job was finished ages ago. Personally I don't consider a job finished until you've disposed of all your waste and cleaned up, but that might just be me.

Edited November 15, 2023 by TheTeapot

[Moghrey Mie]

Department of Infrastructure-Tim, Emily and Jeff up before the committee.

Going forward..............

https://www.tynwald.org.im/audio?file=/business/listen/AgainFiles/envi231115a.mp3

[Roger Mexico]

15 minutes ago, CrazyDave said:

Not DOI then.

An organisation is responsible for behaviour of its contractors.  So, yes it is the DoI.

[Two-lane]

Presumably these kind of projects have a written plan  which includes what to do with the stuff left over. Maybe the DoI were aware of this problem but had nowhere to put the stuff, so they just left until until something suitable came up.

Or maybe there was no plan.

 

[finlo]

56 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

Safest place is buried under a bypass. 

Other than the fact it would be dug up by one of the utilities within a week it's a great plan!

[A fool and his money.....]

1 hour ago, Gladys said:

I didn't say I would be going down to Ballasalla with a bucket, just that coal tar has some pharmaceutical applications and could this be an option, obviously after extraction and refinement to get the pharmaceutical stuff. 

 

 

Glad to hear it 🙂

[A fool and his money.....]

1 hour ago, Happier diner said:

The cancer doesn't develop for years so you need a long term assessment

https://www.nhs.uk/medicines/coal-tar/common-questions-about-coal-tar/#:~:text=Studies have shown that some,UVB radiation has been reported.

 

Might be alright for Gladys after all 

[Fred the shred]

Finlo is spot on any newly finished road is like a magnet to the utility companies and the never leave it as they find it.     We may have got a few more years out of the old promenade surface if it hadn’t been repeatedly dug up and repaired badly so many times it was like a jigsaw puzzle in places.

[Stu Peters]

Coal tar is classed as hazardous. The options (given that IOM can’t process it) were to ship it off to an approved facility, tip it in landfill or make it safe and bury it onsite. I think it’s a pragmatic solution, although our resident coal tar experts will probably disagree.

[Kopek]

So it's our fault Stu, nothing to do with our elected Govt! Well, do accept our humble apologies Stu, we'll orgasnise a clean up operation to deal with this next week!!!

[Happier diner]

40 minutes ago, Kopek said:

So it's our fault Stu, nothing to do with our elected Govt! Well, do accept our humble apologies Stu, we'll orgasnise a clean up operation to deal with this next week!!!

So it's our governments fault that 50 years ago the world was using a substance that now turns out to be harmful? What would you do differently?

[Kopek]

Accept the ambiguity and clean it up!