TheTeapot Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 6 hours ago, Dave Hedgehog said: They seem to have just upped tools and left the crossing at Ballabeg with the work half done. Getting of for four weeks since anything was done. Makes you wonder what balls up they are trying to resolve before finishing it It's properly strange what they're doing there. They've replaced the kerbs at the bus stop, but not with the ones they've been sticking everywhere else for accessibility, so I assume they'll be digging it up again soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weliveinhope Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Does anybody know if theyre planning to open the mountain road this side of TT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, Weliveinhope said: Does anybody know if theyre planning to open the mountain road this side of TT? As they're closing it for six weeks for TT prep shortly it might as well stay shut! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 17 minutes ago, Weliveinhope said: Does anybody know if theyre planning to open the mountain road this side of TT? Review at 12 tomorrow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ativa Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 20 minutes ago, Weliveinhope said: Does anybody know if theyre planning to open the mountain road this side of TT? Well. We just drove over it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weliveinhope Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ativa said: Well. We just drove over it? are you asking me if you did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ativa Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Weliveinhope said: are you asking me if you did? Nope. I am asking why you would ask if they were going to open a road that is open. edited to add. Opening it seems pretty stupid, and I can see it being closed again by the morning. Spending time and money clearing it all the time when it’s only going to close again, and risking damaging the road surface seems pretty short sighted when there are two other routes open. If there were roadworks in Laxey or something it might be worthwhile but sending people up there today seems like a waste of resources. Edited March 14, 2023 by Ativa 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 7 hours ago, Ativa said: Vitoria Street closed to all through traffic from Sunday until no later than 2nd April. This will be fun. Two weeks? Why not 24/7 working and get in don’t over a long weekend? Not enough man power, that'd require 3 shifts. Not to mention the work would be fixed price based on day rates so would need extra funding to cover overtime/unsociable hours. It would only be a viable alternative if the contractor didn't have legitimate claims for the overrun and risking penalty clauses then they'd pull out the stops to mitigate the damages. All in all though it appears to be ill planned job and it isn't going to magically revive an ailing city town centre. Maybe its being delayed so when King Chuck comes to give DBC the charter (or whatever) he'll have something to cut a ribbon on. After all it's not likely to be Horse Tram to nowhere, Liverpool Dock or the new Manxman this year is it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Weliveinhope said: Does anybody know if theyre planning to open the mountain road this side of TT? Open this afternoon in both directions, a bit of a reduction in lane width due to snowdrifts between Casey's and Brandywell but other than that nothing unusual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ativa Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 26 minutes ago, CallMeCurious said: Not enough man power, that'd require 3 shifts. Not to mention the work would be fixed price based on day rates so would need extra funding to cover overtime/unsociable hours. It would only be a viable alternative if the contractor didn't have legitimate claims for the overrun and risking penalty clauses then they'd pull out the stops to mitigate the damages. All in all though it appears to be ill planned job and it isn't going to magically revive an ailing city town centre. Maybe its being delayed so when King Chuck comes to give DBC the charter (or whatever) he'll have something to cut a ribbon on. After all it's not likely to be Horse Tram to nowhere, Liverpool Dock or the new Manxman this year is it. It’s not a contractor. It’s the DOIs own staff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 I thought CCJ were doing it? They're normally pretty good, so maybe you're right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ativa Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, TheTeapot said: I thought CCJ were doing it? They're normally pretty good, so maybe you're right. CCJ have done the crossing. That is nearly finished and then DOI are causing even more chaos by resurfacing the whole road for a few hours a day rather than just cracking on and getting it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, Ativa said: It’s not a contractor. It’s the DOIs own staff Some might be but I've seen private contractors working there. Happens a lot nowadays as DoI hasn't got the frontline manpower and so they work hand in glove with private contractors to get even small jobs done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ativa Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, CallMeCurious said: Some might be but I've seen private contractors working there. Happens a lot nowadays as DoI hasn't got the frontline manpower and so they work hand in glove with private contractors to get even small jobs done. My bad. Just read the release again and it is still CCJ doing the bit that needs the two week closure to through traffic. I still don’t see why DOI don’t insist it’s 24/7 or make staff available to reduce the time though VICTORIA STREET, DOUGLAS - RAISED PEDESTRIAN CROSSING & ROAD RESURFACING Work on the new raised crossing point at the junction of Duke Street is almost complete. Following this the road surface across the entire length of Victoria Street will be renewed. RECONSTRUCTION OF CARRIAGEWAY ON APPROACH TO CROSSING CCJ Ltd will fully reconstruct a small section of road either side of the new crossing. In order to do this there will be no through traffic down Victoria Street for a two-week period from Sunday 19 March until no later than Sunday 2 April. The following diversions will be in place • All vehicular traffic coming down Prospect Hill (including scheduled buses) will be diverted along Athol Street • Traffic using Ridgeway Street will exit via Prospect Hill only • Traffic from Thomas Street (Market Street & Drumgold Street/M&S car park) will be diverted towards Prospect Hill • There will be no access to Victoria Street from Thomas street The taxi rank at the top end of Victoria Street will be moved temporarily to outside Conister Bank at the lower end of Victoria Street. Cabs will access the rank via the rear lane that links Regent Street & Victoria Street. Pedestrian access to all premises will be unaffected and pavements either side of the works will remain open. The road will then fully reopen for a short spell. CARRIAGEWAY RESURFACING From 19 April, the Department’s paver team will resurface the remainder of Victoria Street. This work will be phased PHASE 1 - THOMAS STREET JUNCTION TO NEW CROSSING - NIGHT TIME CLOSURES The carriageway will be resurfaced during a series of evening closures (between Wednesday 19 April and Wednesday 26 April), with the road being closed to through traffic from 6.30pm up to 6.30am daily. To facilitate these works the above diversions will be in place on each evening until the phase of work is complete. PHASE 2 - RIDGEWAY STREET TO THOMAS STREET JUCTION - EVENING CLOSURES The carriageway will be resurfaced during a series of evening closures (between Wednesday 26 April & Wednesday 3 May). With the road being closed to through traffic from 6.30pm up to 6.30am nightly. To facilitate these works the following diversions will be in place on each evening until this phase of work is complete. • All vehicular traffic coming down Prospect Hill (including scheduled buses) will be diverted along Athol Street • Traffic using Ridgeway Street will exit via Prospect Hill only • Traffic from Thomas Street (Market Street & Drumgold Street/M &S car park) will travel in the usual direction down Victoria Street During Phase 1 and 2 the road will remain open during the day, with traffic flowing normally from Prospect Hill towards Loch Promenade, albeit with a temporary road surface. As with the crossing works the taxi rank will be relocated for both phases of surfacing. PHASE 3 - FORT STREET TO LOCH PROMENADE The lower half of the road is sufficiently wide to allow resurfacing to take place in live traffic, with work being undertaken during normal hours. This work will start on 4 April and take up to 7 days to complete. To facilitate these works the following arrangements will be in place • All parking, bus stops and loading areas will be suspended • The working area will be controlled using crowd barriers, with pedestrians being able to use the pavements on either side of the road • A single lane of traffic will be maintained at all times • The taxi rank/loading bay at the top of Victoria Street will be restored. Please note that Bus Vannin will be publishing arrangements for temporary bus stops to replace stops affected by these works ahead of commencement of works. Highway Services CCJ Group Limited Douglas City Centre Management Douglas Borough Council Edited March 14, 2023 by Ativa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, Ativa said: Read the post above yours. Okay I see, so its DoI resurfacing the street and not the level crossing itself. Then they certainly don't have the staff to do shift work. Once could almsot say they were shiftless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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