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Anyone in planning with even half a brain would have said "The roundabouts and bypass need to be complete before you can commence phase 3 of your development." Maybe even phase two.

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11 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

Anyone in planning with even half a brain would have said "The roundabouts and bypass need to be complete before you can commence phase 3 of your development." Maybe even phase two.

I thought that was the case? 

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1 hour ago, Gizo said:

I thought that was the case? 

No. I sort of think that the Balthane roundabout rebuild isn't anything to do with Dandara at all, that the DoI themselves are going to do it to link up with the new road. 

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2 hours ago, TheTeapot said:

Anyone in planning with even half a brain would have said "The roundabouts and bypass need to be complete before you can commence phase 3 of your development." Maybe even phase two.

Read the conditions on it

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3 hours ago, TheTeapot said:

Anyone in planning with even half a brain would have said "The roundabouts and bypass need to be complete before you can commence phase 3 of your development." Maybe even phase two.

Why?  Is it super busy down there now compared to five years ago?

Most of the traffic from The new estate goes north so what’s the need for the bypass before the estate is even finished?

The new road to the north of the development still takes the additional traffic before the roundabout is complete doesn’t it?

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This is quite interesting.  Wannenburgh's question was:  When the completion date for the Ballasalla bypass is; and what mitigations are in place for any delays, known or unknown.

The reply was received only six days after the WQ was published (so they can be speedy if required):

The Ballasalla Bypass scheme is a privately funded development constructed in two phases and not a Department Initiative. The second phase leading from the A5 Douglas Road has been substantially completed but this is only to allow for the access into Phases 2 and 3 of the housing development for residents.

The remaining phase (Phase 1) has no end date for completion as there is no commercial value for the Developer to complete this section until they are ready to do so in their own time and budget.

There are no mitigations for delays in place as this is not a highways scheme and is being constructed under a Section 4 Agreement between the Department and the Developer.

The Section 4 Agreement states that inspections will take place at agreed times during construction and will then be placed on a 5-year maintenance period if accepted as being constructed according to the submitted agreed design, before being formally adopted. Currently no part of the Bypass is adopted or under any maintenance period.

Dandara however begs to differ:

Property development company Dandara has hit back at government claims that the Ballasalla bypass work has no end date.

The company says the work has been completed. 

But the Department of Infrastructure hasn't completed a roundabout to make the bypass usable. 

So basically they're saying that they're not going to do anything else.

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the bypass only has to be completed once they start building more than the 70 something they already have , if they never see a financial reason to build the rest of the houses they have no legal need to build/complete the bypass , planning got hooped again , probably willingly.

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Crookall really is a total embarrassment. If ever there was a stark illustration of the lack of quality in Tynwald, it’s the appointment of this freakishly stupid man as a Mjnister. I also reserve disdain for those residents of Peel who voted for this serial incompetent. 

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13 minutes ago, Vaaish said:

Crookall really is a total embarrassment. If ever there was a stark illustration of the lack of quality in Tynwald, it’s the appointment of this freakishly stupid man as a Mjnister. I also reserve disdain for those residents of Peel who voted for this serial incompetent. 

He would be out of his depth in a paddling pool

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