display name Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 54 minutes ago, asitis said: People moan , yes I agree, but to suggest those people are somehow expected to solve the issues, rather than the people elected, salaried and qualified to do so is a bit far ! I'd like to add I should moan about people moaning about people moaning. Should anyone wish to moan about me moaning about people moaning about people moaning,please contact your local MHK for referral 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwhite Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, asitis said: But those of us who point out the realities aren't paid to problem solve ! We have rafts of highly paid civil servants, some supposed experts in their field, and a huge number of local and national politicos who are similarly rewarded for their efforts. People moan , yes I agree, but to suggest those people are somehow expected to solve the issues, rather than the people elected, salaried and qualified to do so is a bit far ! We do. But then people say they're not happy with what they are producing. Some people just moan for the sake of it. However there's no one actually doing anything about it. So do you know what moaning about it on here, on Twitter, down the pub or anywhere else to an individual or small group will achieve? Absolutely nothing. If you really want to make a change, I mean seriously, then, dependent on circumstances, get directly involved. You (collective) elected these people. If they aren't doing what you think they should be, hold them accountable. Not by being a shouty angry non identifiable voice on here, Twitter or anywhere else. Get in touch with them directly. Alternately actually get off your backside, away from your computer and get like minded people into a group and lobby for change. Or if you really feel strongly, get involved yourself and see if you can do better. Edited March 8, 2023 by jackwhite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 3 hours ago, jackwhite said: Alternately actually get off your backside, away from your computer .... Can we send an email? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwhite Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 14 minutes ago, Gladys said: Can we send an email? To the MHK? Yeah. Will they answer it? Depends. They don't do anything according to some on here so you never know. If you want to actually change anything.......well I think you know the answer to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 3 hours ago, jackwhite said: Get in touch with them directly. Excellent suggestion, then after a couple of emails to them they’ll have a restraining order put on you to prevent you from contacting them again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 4 hours ago, jackwhite said: You (collective) elected these people. Shouldn’t that be “we” (unless you live off-island or refused to vote)? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anyone Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 11 hours ago, jackwhite said: To the MHK? Yeah. Will they answer it? Depends. They don't do anything according to some on here so you never know. If you want to actually change anything.......well I think you know the answer to that. You might , perhaps maybe , missed the nuance there. Or maybe not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 16 hours ago, jackwhite said: To the MHK? Yeah. Will they answer it? Depends. They don't do anything according to some on here so you never know. If you want to actually change anything.......well I think you know the answer to that. Put on a t-shirt with a slogan and stand at a road junction (or a school entrance until you get moved on)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 16 hours ago, Passing Time said: Excellent suggestion, then after a couple of emails to them they’ll have a restraining order put on you to prevent you from contacting them again Considering how hard the CS fight to avoid FoI requests, it'd be great if they applied the same effort to say the actual work they are paid for? The running theme on most of these issues is a lack of perfomance either in carrying out the work itself, managing others on behalf of the public or failing to communicate clearly. And if the failings can't be swept under the rug then circle the wagons and have a comittee. Where are we up to with the Covid enquiry btw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Time to abolish the role once and for all..? https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/politics/bishop-to-quit-his-role-and-the-island-600175 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Yes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 27 minutes ago, quilp said: Time to abolish the role once and for all..? https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/politics/bishop-to-quit-his-role-and-the-island-600175 Reminds me of our local vicar who said he didn't feel God's call to go to Milton Keynes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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