Electricity Price Hike

[Tinpot]

7 minutes ago, Max Power said:

Anyone who can make head or tail of their utilities bill is a hero to me, but it's correct, we pay a lot more for electricity on the island, and don't get me started on gas!

How do we pay more for electricity?  All the figures are in the last couple of pages proving that we don’t!

[A fool and his money.....]

9 minutes ago, Tinpot said:

No sensible response then?

Shocker that.

At least you kept being proven to be wrong nice and civil eh 🙄

You got that fire yet? Would you like me to deliver it for you?

You'll be able to retire on the amount you save by using it.

[Tinpot]

3 minutes ago, A fool and his money..... said:

You got that fire yet? Would you like me to deliver it for you?

You'll be able to retire on the amount you save by using it.

We have spent all day “debating”

You seem proud to have been out.

I have also been out for lunch and a few beers, and am now home cooking dinner for my family.

You have been asked numerous questions and not answered them.

You have been given opportunities to explain what you are talking about, and not taken them.

You have accused me of needing a carer.

You have called me a fuck wit.

You haven’t once come back with any evidence to counter what I have posted.

hmmm

 

[Max Power]

16 minutes ago, Tinpot said:

How do we pay more for electricity?  All the figures are in the last couple of pages proving that we don’t!

Sorry, I hadn't seen that table, I was going by reports from people I know in the UK who live in similar sized housing to me. 

It does indeed look as though we are in a reasonably close region to most areas of the UK, although historically, as I'm sure you know, we have been a lot more expensive in the past. 

The cost of energy has generally gone stratospheric, despite the lowering of gas and oil prices, I feel there is an element of profiteering, which should be stamped on.  

[A fool and his money.....]

5 minutes ago, Tinpot said:

We have spent all day “debating”

You seem proud to have been out.

I have also been out for lunch and a few beers, and am now home cooking dinner for my family.

You have been asked numerous questions and not answered them.

You have been given opportunities to explain what you are talking about, and not taken them.

You have accused me of needing a carer.

You have called me a fuck wit.

You haven’t once come back with any evidence to counter what I have posted.

hmmm

 

Go and buy your electric fire FFS.

Sit there smug in front of it in the mistaken belief it costs you less to run than it would in the UK.

You've provided the evidence yourself, you're just too thick to interpret it.

 

[Two-lane]

This thread is going down in the anals of history.

[Tinpot]

4 minutes ago, A fool and his money..... said:

Go and buy your electric fire FFS.

Sit there smug in front of it in the mistaken belief it costs you less to run than it would in the UK.

You've provided the evidence yourself, you're just too thick to interpret it.

 

FFS

Explain why it’s more expensive then, and try and do it without being rude.

You are aware that the daily standing charge is part of your electricity bill and that there are 365 days in a year?

Edited Sunday at 06:56 PM by Tinpot

[Tinpot]

Just now, Two-lane said:

This thread is going down in the anals of history.

You could always say who you think is wrong.  If it’s me I will suck it up, but considering I am “debating” with someone who thinks they aren’t currently training bus drivers despite them being seen on the roads and it reported in the news …….

[A fool and his money.....]

2 minutes ago, Tinpot said:

FFS

Explain why it’s more expensive then, and try and do it without being rude.

You are are that the daily standing charge is part of your electricity bill and that there are 365 days in a year?

The fact that you already have an electricity supply in your house means you're already paying the standing charge.

If you go and buy an electric fire you'll still be paying the standing charge. They won't charge you again, they won't let you off the one you're already paying, it' ll stay exactly the same.

What will change is the amount of units of electricity you use. 

We pay more for each unit of electricity than they do in the UK. I found that out by using the figures you provided but obviously don't understand.

Therefore, your electric fire will cost you more to run here than it would in the UK.

It really is that simple. I really don't see what you're struggling with.

[Tinpot]

16 minutes ago, A fool and his money..... said:

The fact that you already have an electricity supply in your house means you're already paying the standing charge.

If you go and buy an electric fire you'll still be paying the standing charge. They won't charge you again, they won't let you off the one you're already paying, it' ll stay exactly the same.

What will change is the amount of units of electricity you use. 

We pay more for each unit of electricity than they do in the UK. I found that out by using the figures you provided but obviously don't understand.

Therefore, your electric fire will cost you more to run here than it would in the UK.

It really is that simple. I really don't see what you're struggling with.

Goodnight.

Hilarious 

PS. I have been careful not to say it costs less to run a fire or any appliance here because I could see which moronic route you were heading down.

 

Edited Sunday at 07:20 PM by Tinpot

[A fool and his money.....]

9 minutes ago, Tinpot said:

Goodnight.

Hilarious 

PS. I have been careful not to say it costs less to run a fire or any appliance here because I could see which moronic route you were heading down.

 

Just admit you're wrong for once, you should be used to it by now.

Are you seriously trying to remove the context of the entire discussion just because you've lost?

Go and buy your fire.

Goodnight yourself.

[A fool and his money.....]

1 hour ago, Tinpot said:

 

Are you still claiming it’s more expensive to run an electric appliance here than it is in the UK?  I am prepared to be shown to be wrong

Obviously you're not.

[Tinpot]

1 minute ago, A fool and his money..... said:

Obviously you're not.

Have you noticed the only person who agreed with you today has subsequently apologised for being wrong.

Nobody will back me up because nobody here wants to be seen to agree with me, but rest assured if I was wrong there would be a pile on.

[Jarndyce]

40 minutes ago, Two-lane said:

This thread is going down in the anals of history.

Yep - it’s like Statler and Waldorf!

(Although, I suppose there’s an outside chance that they’re secretly in love…)

[Mercenary]

6 hours ago, Tinpot said:

So, I did spend a few minutes on this partly out of interest, and partly because @A fool and his money..... was spouting bollocks.

I would say we are fairly average usage at 2900 KWh a year, we pay MUA £70 a month.

The total costs for areas of the UK are below based on the figures I found online.  The figures seem pretty accurate based on some shopping around for quotes based on our usage at different UK post codes with different suppliers.

 

	Unit Price	Standing Price	Average usage	Standing cost PA	Annual cost	Annual % Difference to IOM	Unit % Difference to IOM
IOM	28.5	24.6	826.5	£ 89.79	£ 916.29	0
Eastern	25.21	50.84	731.09	£ 185.57	£ 916.66	0.04	13.05
Easet Midlands	23.77	56.9	689.33	£ 207.69	£ 897.02	-2.10	19.90
London	25.69	41.59	745.01	£ 151.80	£ 896.81	-2.13	10.94
Midlands	23.83	63.62	691.07	£ 232.21	£ 923.28	0.76	19.60
Northern	23.19	72.1	672.51	£ 263.17	£ 935.68	2.12	22.90
Northern Scotland	24.96	61.98	723.84	£ 226.23	£ 950.07	3.69	14.18
North West	25.01	52.04	725.29	£ 189.95	£ 915.24	-0.12	13.95
North Wales & Mersey	25.39	67.89	736.31	£ 247.80	£ 984.11	7.40	12.25
Southern	24.62	64.28	713.98	£ 234.62	£ 948.60	3.53	15.76
South East	25.24	57.84	731.96	£ 211.12	£ 943.08	2.92	12.92
Southern Scotand	23.96	64.17	694.84	£ 234.22	£ 929.06	1.39	18.95
South Wales	24.49	64.12	710.21	£ 234.04	£ 944.25	3.05	16.37
Southern Western	24.18	68.12	701.22	£ 248.64	£ 949.86	3.66	17.87
Yorkshire	23.51	68.32	681.79	£ 249.37	£ 931.16	1.62	21.23

 

If someone uses half what we do (four bed, detached, two adults, two teens and I work from home)  The figures are below.

 

	Unit Price	Standing Price	Average usage	Standing cost PA	Annual cost	Annual % Difference to IOM	Unit % Difference to IOM
IOM	28.5	24.6	413.25	£ 89.79	£ 503.04	0
Eastern	25.21	50.84	365.545	£ 185.57	£ 551.11	9.56	13.05
Easet Midlands	23.77	56.9	344.665	£ 207.69	£ 552.35	9.80	19.90
London	25.69	41.59	372.505	£ 151.80	£ 524.31	4.23	10.94
Midlands	23.83	63.62	345.535	£ 232.21	£ 577.75	14.85	19.60
Northern	23.19	72.1	336.255	£ 263.17	£ 599.42	19.16	22.90
Northern Scotland	24.96	61.98	361.92	£ 226.23	£ 588.15	16.92	14.18
North West	25.01	52.04	362.645	£ 189.95	£ 552.59	9.85	13.95
North Wales & Mersey	25.39	67.89	368.155	£ 247.80	£ 615.95	22.45	12.25
Southern	24.62	64.28	356.99	£ 234.62	£ 591.61	17.61	15.76
South East	25.24	57.84	365.98	£ 211.12	£ 577.10	14.72	12.92
Southern Scotand	23.96	64.17	347.42	£ 234.22	£ 581.64	15.63	18.95
South Wales	24.49	64.12	355.105	£ 234.04	£ 589.14	17.12	16.37
Southern Western	24.18	68.12	350.61	£ 248.64	£ 599.25	19.13	17.87
Yorkshire	23.51	68.32	340.895	£ 249.37	£ 590.26	17.34	21.23

 

If someone uses twice what we do, prices are below.

 

	Unit Price	Standing Price	Average usage	Standing cost PA	Annual cost	Annual % Difference to IOM	Unit % Difference to IOM
IOM	28.5	24.6	1653	£ 89.79	£ 1,742.79	0
Eastern	25.21	50.84	1462.18	£ 185.57	£ 1,647.75	-5.45	13.05
Easet Midlands	23.77	56.9	1378.66	£ 207.69	£ 1,586.35	-8.98	19.90
London	25.69	41.59	1490.02	£ 151.80	£ 1,641.82	-5.79	10.94
Midlands	23.83	63.62	1382.14	£ 232.21	£ 1,614.35	-7.37	19.60
Northern	23.19	72.1	1345.02	£ 263.17	£ 1,608.19	-7.72	22.90
Northern Scotland	24.96	61.98	1447.68	£ 226.23	£ 1,673.91	-3.95	14.18
North West	25.01	52.04	1450.58	£ 189.95	£ 1,640.53	-5.87	13.95
North Wales & Mersey	25.39	67.89	1472.62	£ 247.80	£ 1,720.42	-1.28	12.25
Southern	24.62	64.28	1427.96	£ 234.62	£ 1,662.58	-4.60	15.76
South East	25.24	57.84	1463.92	£ 211.12	£ 1,675.04	-3.89	12.92
Southern Scotand	23.96	64.17	1389.68	£ 234.22	£ 1,623.90	-6.82	18.95
South Wales	24.49	64.12	1420.42	£ 234.04	£ 1,654.46	-5.07	16.37
Southern Western	24.18	68.12	1402.44	£ 248.64	£ 1,651.08	-5.26	17.87
Yorkshire	23.51	68.32	1363.58	£ 249.37	£ 1,612.95	-7.45	21.23

 

I am not really seeing what the issue is.  Our very low standing charge keeps our lower users (presumably the less wealthy) paying less than the UK and our moderate users towards the lower end of t#what you would pay in UK.

Obviously based on not being on PAYG, I have no idea how we compare there.

 

The issue with your analysis is your name's not Roger Mexico and also you're not moaning about the gov enough