hissingsid Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 So the Arch Bishop of York who has been visiting the Island over the weekend was on MR saying the Bishop of the Isle of Man should be in Tynwald and in discussion with people he has met this is a popular belief. I wonder who he has been talking to as most if not all the people I have had this conversation with do not agree. Why should a man who has no working knowledge of the Island sit in our parliament and have a vote ? There will be a new Bishop appointed when the present one retires in October and what he or she will bring to the table is very debatable. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Helmut Fromage Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Maybe wait for the QE2 report tomorrow before commenting on a man in a dress and fancy hat wearing jewels In Tynwald. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted March 20, 2023 Author Share Posted March 20, 2023 Only the first part of the report though I am not expecting anything substantial she will probably say her expert team are progressing with speed and integrity and the work they have done up to now is thorough and painstaking and cannot be rushed. I cannot believe no one has discovered who Batman and Robin are the Isle of Man is certainly not what it used to be skeet wise 🤣. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, Mr Helmut Fromage said: Maybe wait for the QE2 report tomorrow before commenting on a man in a dress and fancy hat wearing jewels In Tynwald. what were you doing in Tynwald? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 21 minutes ago, hissingsid said: So the Arch Bishop of York who has been visiting the Island over the weekend was on MR saying the Bishop of the Isle of Man should be in Tynwald and in discussion with people he has met this is a popular belief. I wonder who he has been talking to as most if not all the people I have had this conversation with do not agree. Why should a man who has no working knowledge of the Island sit in our parliament and have a vote ? There will be a new Bishop appointed when the present one retires in October and what he or she will bring to the table is very debatable. https://humanists.uk/campaigns/secularism/constitutional-reform/bishops-in-the-lords/ Discriminatory (catholics, jews, methodists don't get seats automatically) Religious privilege (should be secular society with equity for all) Undemocratic (bishops are not voted in by the general public) MHKs and MLCs probably said Bishop Peter was a good guy who brings a calm presence to proceedings. That is not an adequate reason for him to be in there and voting on our legislation. 3 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 23 minutes ago, Mr Helmut Fromage said: Maybe wait for the QE2 report tomorrow before commenting on a man in a dress and fancy hat wearing jewels In Tynwald. I hope you’re not bashing the bishop… 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Helmut Fromage Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 42 minutes ago, Jarndyce said: I hope you’re not bashing the bishop… Apparently item 4 on the Curriculum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Be careful around bishops, they can move diagonally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 5 hours ago, hissingsid said: So the Arch Bishop of York who has been visiting the Island over the weekend was on MR saying the Bishop of the Isle of Man should be in Tynwald and in discussion with people he has met this is a popular belief. I wonder who he has been talking to as most if not all the people I have had this conversation with do not agree. Why should a man who has no working knowledge of the Island sit in our parliament and have a vote ? There will be a new Bishop appointed when the present one retires in October and what he or she will bring to the table is very debatable. Well I presume everyone he's talking to will be from the same ilk, so they'll of course think the Bishop should be in Tynwald. Some people only hear what their echo chamber tells them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailless Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 11 hours ago, AcousticallyChallenged said: Be careful around bishops, they can move diagonally. Their hands certainly can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Dalby Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) Listening to the Tynwald business this week on the referral to the Standards Committee indicated both the possible benefit of the Bishop being in Tynwald, and also at the same time why he should just be available to provide advice to members and not have a vote. Being referred to the Committee was clearly a stressful and emotional experience, and I suspect someone in that position could do with having someone to whom they can talk to in confidence and find some friendliness and advice from (whether they want to take it on a spiritual level or not), knowing that that person would not be asked to decide their fate or be seen to take sides. If there is a role for the Bishop in Tynwald that would seem to be it. Edited March 23, 2023 by Thomas Dalby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombay Bad Boy Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 On 3/20/2023 at 10:49 PM, AcousticallyChallenged said: Be careful around bishops, they can move diagonally. Don't bash the bishop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 11 hours ago, Thomas Dalby said: Listening to the Tynwald business this week on the referral to the Standards Committee indicated both the possible benefit of the Bishop being in Tynwald, and also at the same time why he should just be available to provide advice to members and not have a vote. Being referred to the Committee was clearly a stressful and emotional experience, and I suspect someone in that position could do with having someone to whom they can talk to in confidence and find some friendliness and advice from (whether they want to take it on a spiritual level or not), knowing that that person would not be asked to decide their fate or be seen to take sides. If there is a role for the Bishop in Tynwald that would seem to be it. There are plenty of counselling services and religious people out in the community to provide that if needed. Having the bishop on standby is not a reason for the Church of England to be given a favourable position in our legislature. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Dalby Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 A very valid view and one I suspect most would share. I think my point is really just that if I can see any justification for the Bishop being in Tynwald it would be pastoral/advisory rather than as a legislator, and indeed not having a vote might assist in that case 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Moghrey Mie said: There are plenty of counselling services and religious people out in the community to provide that if needed. Having the bishop on standby is not a reason for the Church of England to be given a favourable position in our legislature. That's why there's a Chaplain. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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