A fool and his money..... Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 16 minutes ago, Gladys said: How can you cover your ass if it is not exposed? Do you expect the DEFA Minister to do site visits throughout construction too? No, I expect him to not overule qualified experts unless he is 100% sure the issues they were concerned about leading to them rejecting the application and appeal wouldn't be a problem. He obviously just decided to wing it on this one with predictable results. If his ass isn't exposed then it bloody well should be. Tell me you're not just a little bit sick of extremely well renumerated half wits fucking up big time with no accountability whatsoever. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, Gladys said: Which is why there was a condition attached to the approval. An obviously insufficient precaution, just as the professional planning inspectors predicted, twice. That would have been that until some clueless clown decided to make himself feel important by intervening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 11 minutes ago, A fool and his money..... said: An obviously insufficient precaution, just as the professional planning inspectors predicted, twice. That would have been that until some clueless clown decided to make himself feel important by intervening. It'll be interesting to see if there will be a public enquiry when the insurers turn around and refuse to insure or re-insure only at significant extra cost any adjacent properties above. Just like the valley floods. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katman Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) So did the developer provide the necessary Method Statement, etc. and if so was it approved by the Department? Edited March 27, 2023 by Katman Added text. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Katman said: So did the developer provide the necessary Method Statement, etc. and if so was it approved by the Department? Exactly what I raised a couple of days ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 15 hours ago, A fool and his money..... said: That would have been that until some clueless clown decided to make himself feel important by intervening. One might wonder if he actually availed himself of any further advice before making this decision? If so, would it be on public record as to who gave it and what advice it might have been? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: One might wonder if he actually availed himself of any further advice before making this decision? If so, would it be on public record as to who gave it and what advice it might have been? Well the then DEFA CEO at the time thought it was a good idea and put his name to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 this will make a very interesting question in keys or Tynwald , when was the method statement and schedule of works for the stabilisation of the cliff face and safety of the site from landslip submitted to the Department as indicated in the approval notice? prior to the commencement of any work ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, Omobono said: this will make a very interesting question in keys or Tynwald , when was the method statement and schedule of works for the stabilisation of the cliff face and safety of the site from landslip submitted to the Department as indicated in the approval notice? prior to the commencement of any work ! If it was submitted, but didn't cover this eventuality then there is little mileage in pursuing it further, They would have complied with the planning requirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Happier diner said: If it was submitted, but didn't cover this eventuality then there is little mileage in pursuing it further, They would have complied with the planning requirement. Assuming the method statement was approved, shirley? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Happier diner said: If it was submitted, but didn't cover this eventuality then there is little mileage in pursuing it further, They would have complied with the planning requirement. It was required to be submitted before any works including demolition, so may not have been updated with a survey of the cliff face in the intervening period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 20 minutes ago, Gladys said: It was required to be submitted before any works including demolition, so may not have been updated with a survey of the cliff face in the intervening period. Maybe. The point I was making was does it say it has to be checked and approved.....or just 'submitted' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 21 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: Assuming the method statement was approved, shirley? Does it say that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Happier diner said: Does it say that? 'agreed in writing by the Department' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, Gladys said: 'agreed in writing by the Department' im surprised. Would mean they had approved it though? Agreed is a strange term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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