Mistercee Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 What are the captions "Melanie Christian Garth Commissioner" and "Andrew Smith MHK Garth" about? Is someone getting their geography mixed up. Typical slackness from Isle of Man TV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) so is it the same andrew in both videos ? second video linked to by X in man shows andrew helping to remove the blot on the landscape , first video by zarley shows andrew the non expert unsurprised that it's all fell down after the fact. . its gone from blot on the landscape to no blot and no landscape Edited March 25, 2023 by WTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-in-man Posted March 25, 2023 Author Share Posted March 25, 2023 Same bloke - mine was a year ago about . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, John Wright said: All these attempts to blame planning, or breach of regulations, is interesting, but not really relevant in liability terms. The owners of the higher land/houses have a right of support from the owners of the lower land. Remove that support and the lower land owner, and his servants and agents, are liable. The insurers of the upper owners will no doubt pay out on a total loss basis and subrogate the claims their clients have. Of course the claim against the lower owners May get messy if they don’t have insurance, so contractors, engineers, architects etc May get dragged in as defendants or third parties. That being said, is it a rock fall or is it a steep Earth bank covering a steeply sloping cliff rock face that has slipped? That's a good point. Who owns the lower land that has slipped though if it's offset from the boundary of the affected property. There could be claim upon claim. There could be a third party that has to claim on whoever did the digging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, John Wright said: All these attempts to blame planning, or breach of regulations, is interesting, but not really relevant in liability terms. The owners of the higher land/houses have a right of support from the owners of the lower land. Remove that support and the lower land owner, and his servants and agents, are liable. The insurers of the upper owners will no doubt pay out on a total loss basis and subrogate the claims their clients have. Of course the claim against the lower owners May get messy if they don’t have insurance, so contractors, engineers, architects etc May get dragged in as defendants or third parties. That being said, is it a rock fall or is it a steep Earth bank covering a steeply sloping cliff rock face that has slipped? Looking at that video, it does look like a total loss situation, so I hope the household insurers pay out promptly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enbee Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Before it was sold about 20 years ago it was described as an idyllic location with stunning sea views. Certainly gets a bit lively at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) DEFA investigations will conclude that this landslip and the earlier 2019 flooding of roads and properties in the lower Laxey valley was almost certainly caused by kids riding their motorbikes on land at Rushen Mines and rowdy campers at Sulby Claddaghs but the bans on these activities unfortunately came too late to prevent the incidents occurring... Edited March 25, 2023 by Non-Believer Extra bit 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buncha wankas Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 6 hours ago, Zarley said: Who is the engineer and architect who put plans together and the building control officer who would oversee the works? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 3 hours ago, enbee said: Before it was sold about 20 years ago it was described as an idyllic location with stunning sea views. Certainly gets a bit lively at times. Great sea views for people with bad eyesight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 This is why the Summerland site has not been sold, the underpinning of the cliffs above would be a mammoth and very costly excercise and the people who own property above keep a very close eye on any proposed development. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, hissingsid said: This is why the Summerland site has not been sold, the underpinning of the cliffs above would be a mammoth and very costly excercise and the people who own property above keep a very close eye on any proposed development. The underpinning of the cliff was £500k back at the time Sefton group proposed to develop it. That wasn't a great cost to government when you consider the £35m of private investment it would have unlocked. It screams great value compared to the new £100m ferry shed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 11 hours ago, buncha wankas said: Who is the engineer and architect who put plans together and the building control officer who would oversee the works? None of them would be involved if Geoffrey Boot hadn't overruled a planning inspector's technical findings at appeal. He really needs to be held to account for this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 1 hour ago, A fool and his money..... said: None of them would be involved if Geoffrey Boot hadn't overruled a planning inspector's technical findings at appeal. He really needs to be held to account for this. Well he can’t be unless there’s some allegations of fraud which there obviously isn’t so just have to move on for that & concentrate on sorting out problems 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Do we know there is no connection to Boot and the site owner, Have they ever been out and killed stuff together. Your awful quick (and nobody insinuated fraud) to quell the idea. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Seems to have been quite a bit of time since this work started. The planning app states that they were waiting for building control to examine the foundations. 2101579CON COR Applicant email re commencement 14.03.22_Redacted (1).pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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