Mercenary Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 4 hours ago, Banker said: So garff aren’t actually obtaining the report at their expense they want Tynwald to get it & all taxpayers to pay for it, typical NIMBY attitude. Just tell Laxey to FO & shove the treatment plant on the football field. They either want sewage pumped into the sea or not!!’ It is getting pretty ridiculous now - there should be a significant levy on Garff rates to pay for this NIMBYism nonsense which has driven costs up massively (and no doubt true costs will be obscured and mangled in with other schemes/opex streams so it can't be benchmarked against comparable UK schemes at 1/6th of the cost). It should also be considered in the overhaul of planning which isn't suited to these types of issues - whether there needs to be a separate consents process for larger projects or those affecting a large number of stakeholders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 ....but if the original Iris scheme included Laxey then this is a cost cutting exercise that cannot be charged to Laxey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Perhaps local authorities should be tasked with finding locations for these things? If Laxey has a problem, suggest a suitable and cost effective location! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 the scheme should be carried out in the most practical and cost effective way , not gold plated to suit those who are expecting the rest of us to stump up for Rolls Royce scheme and massive pumping and energy costs , there are hundreds of modern high standard sewage treatment plants in many towns and small communes all over Europe similar to this location , Agree with Max if Laxey has a problem then lets have some local input regarding solutions , its obvious the energy and pumping costs of iris have gone through the roof and the one size fits all model is no longer affordable , 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Lamb Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, Roxanne said: Sigh - here we go again...Garff residents want a different location for sewage plant I'm at the stage now where I don't care where it goes, however, I will say that with fifty possible locations examined, I cannot believe that there couldn't have been a better one that would be cheaper and wouldn't involve pumping sewage up hill. Axenfell was all kept very quiet. Not even the commissioners knew about it. I can't help but wonder if by choosing the most ridiculous location that they are hoping that the Cairn site will be revisited for the whole thing. It stinks a bit, but it wouldn't surprise me. Just so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted April 14, 2023 Author Share Posted April 14, 2023 14 minutes ago, Roxanne said: Sigh - here we go again...Garff residents want a different location for sewage plant I'm at the stage now where I don't care where it goes, however, I will say that with fifty possible locations examined, I cannot believe that there couldn't have been a better one that would be cheaper and wouldn't involve pumping sewage up hill. Axenfell was all kept very quiet. Not even the commissioners knew about it. I can't help but wonder if by choosing the most ridiculous location that they are hoping that the Cairn site will be revisited for the whole thing. It stinks a bit, but it wouldn't surprise me. It will be the same in peel, we wanted sewage sorted but don’t dare put it anywhere near me & let’s get the most expensive scheme as long as it doesn’t cost peel ratepayers! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 44 minutes ago, Roxanne said: Sigh - here we go again...Garff residents want a different location for sewage plant I'm at the stage now where I don't care where it goes, however, I will say that with fifty possible locations examined, I cannot believe that there couldn't have been a better one that would be cheaper and wouldn't involve pumping sewage up hill. Axenfell was all kept very quiet. Not even the commissioners knew about it. I can't help but wonder if by choosing the most ridiculous location that they are hoping that the Cairn site will be revisited for the whole thing. It stinks a bit, but it wouldn't surprise me. Where would you put them? If the Laxey one is not in Laxey at the bottom of the Hill where the pipe is. How could you put it anywhere else without pumping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 29 minutes ago, Banker said: It will be the same in peel, we wanted sewage sorted but don’t dare put it anywhere near me & let’s get the most expensive scheme as long as it doesn’t cost peel ratepayers! Yep. Only in the Isle of Man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 I spent more time in and around the sea in Laxey in my teens than anyone I know (unfortunately not so much now) and my knowlwdge of the marine environment is also better than most. The water quality 99% of the time is excellent with the current situation and I've never been sick after being in (unlike Peel). The costs and effort are getting ridiculous now and I'd warrant the vast majority of the nimbys never get salty. If anything just extend the outflow a bit further north. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 There are a lot of guests looking at this particular forum. I wonder why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Dolce_Vita Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 It's a shame that Garwick Glen can't be turned into a public glen somehow, as it's supposed to have been one of the prettiest glens on the island. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 15 minutes ago, La_Dolce_Vita said: It's a shame that Garwick Glen can't be turned into a public glen somehow, as it's supposed to have been one of the prettiest glens on the island. I am sure it was many years ago, I have very vague memories of going there in the 60s. It was bought (one of the Bibby family, I think, they certainly lived there in the early 1980s) and was then closed to the public. No idea who owns it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 23 minutes ago, Gladys said: I am sure it was many years ago, I have very vague memories of going there in the 60s. It was bought (one of the Bibby family, I think, they certainly lived there in the early 1980s) and was then closed to the public. No idea who owns it now. "Robinsons" people I was told. Yes it was the Bibby family that lived there. I recall being told that the Bibby's kept the gardens open until some hooligan came along and damaged some property in the grounds. Not sure if that was true or whether they never opened it at all after the purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: "Robinsons" people I was told. Yes it was the Bibby family that lived there. I recall being told that the Bibby's kept the gardens open until some hooligan came along and damaged some property in the grounds. Not sure if that was true or whether they never opened it at all after the purchase. that would certainly make sense about vandalism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Gladys said: No idea who owns it now. Manx Utilities? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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