offshoremanxman Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Lxxx said: Aah the old fluoride debate again. Makes you wonder why they are s hell bent on pushing it. No that point is clear. They’re pushing it as they have no dentists in the IOM and little chance of any more moving here so they clearly want to try to put something like fluoride in place to mitigate the damage being caused to kids teeth as they can’t get adequate dental support. That’s all. Passive preventative healthcare through your tap as no professionals want to work here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said: No that point is clear. They’re pushing it as they have no dentists in the IOM and little chance of any more moving here so they clearly want to try to put something like fluoride in place to mitigate the damage being caused to kids teeth as they can’t get adequate dental support. That’s all. Passive preventative healthcare through your tap as no professionals want to work here. It's not even proven to work effectively in tap water. For every study that says it does there is another that says it doesn't. Typical of IOM Gov though. Can't solve the problem so grasp at any spurious straw to try and spot a cheap short cut. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Lxxx said: It's not even proven to work effectively in tap water. For every study that says it does there is another that says it doesn't. Typical of IOM Gov though. Can't solve the problem so grasp at any spurious straw to try and spot a cheap short cut. That's not true. It's quite expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Just now, Roger Mexico said: That's not true. It's quite expensive. An even worse idea then. Bonkers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 57 minutes ago, Lxxx said: It's not even proven to work effectively in tap water. For every study that says it does there is another that says it doesn't. Typical of IOM Gov though. Can't solve the problem so grasp at any spurious straw to try and spot a cheap short cut. The studies that say it works are believable and good sources. The studies that say it doesn't generally are not. It has a lot in common with a certain vaccine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Two million quid to put it in the water. Can’t we get some dentists for that amount? Or a programme of education in schools? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, Roxanne said: Two million quid to put it in the water. Can’t we get some dentists for that amount? Or a programme of education in schools? Wow. That's a surprise. If you think about it though. £2M over 30 years or so wouldn't get you many dentists. Its not just about dentists and costs though I suppose it will be agrued that its about quality of life. Having a mouthful of fillings at 15 is not good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Having a mouthful of fillings at 15 is not good. As anyone who went to a dentist in the 70’s will attest to. Plenty of dentists around all. Most of them free. Didn’t stop them drilling out healthy teeth though and filling them with amalgam. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forestboy Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Wow. That's a surprise. If you think about it though. £2M over 30 years or so wouldn't get you many dentists. Its not just about dentists and costs though I suppose it will be agrued that its about quality of life. Having a mouthful of fillings at 15 is not good. School dentists were horrendous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 22 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Having a mouthful of fillings at 15 is not good. There were some butchers here in the 70s and 80s...got paid for everything done...so they did everything...needed, or not, in many cases. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Albert Tatlock said: There were some butchers here in the 70s and 80s...got paid for everything done...so they did everything...needed, or not, in many cases. Agreed. Barbaric behavior from school dentists has lead to life long problems for some. Would a local fluoride programme targeting school not make more sense? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Hopefully they will put this silly idea to bed and focus on things that actually matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 44 minutes ago, cissolt said: Agreed. Barbaric behavior from school dentists has lead to life long problems for some. Would a local fluoride programme targeting school not make more sense? I was actually referring to private dentists. All the kids that went to the school dentist in the 70s seemed to be better off...though still not perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 4 hours ago, Happier diner said: The studies that say it works are believable and good sources. The studies that say it doesn't generally are not. It has a lot in common with a certain vaccine. More than you think. They got away with mass medicating the public with the vaccine. Looks like they want to push their luck. What next? Statins? Warfarin? Birth control drugs? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Cambon said: What next Probably nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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