AcousticallyChallenged Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 44 minutes ago, woolley said: This is where this nonsense has emerged from. Lifted directly from (or perhaps imposed, who knows?) from legislation in London. It doesn't matter how many times we say stick it where the sun don't shine, they keep bringing it back: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/health-and-care-bill-factsheets/health-and-care-bill-water-fluoridation As is pointed out in your link, fluoridation has been the norm in Birmingham for example, since 1964. This new act seems more about streamlining bureaucracy, rather than some underhanded attempt to fluoridate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 So how much has it cost to bring this fluoride expert over here ? The facts regarding fluoridation can be obtained from the internet. Water from different districts is non comparable and the quality of our water is good to drink , good to wash in etc I have never had quantities of lime scale in my kettle which occurs in hard water areas. There must be someone in Government that does not have enough to occupy themselves with. Why should the general public be subjected to additives because some parents have neither the time or inclination to supervise their young children whilst they clean their teeth. I already have fluoride in my toothpaste if you want fluoride buy toothpaste with it included. This is a time wasting excercise. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 25 minutes ago, hissingsid said: So how much has it cost to bring this fluoride expert over here ? The facts regarding fluoridation can be obtained from the internet. Water from different districts is non comparable and the quality of our water is good to drink , good to wash in etc I have never had quantities of lime scale in my kettle which occurs in hard water areas. There must be someone in Government that does not have enough to occupy themselves with. Why should the general public be subjected to additives because some parents have neither the time or inclination to supervise their young children whilst they clean their teeth. I already have fluoride in my toothpaste if you want fluoride buy toothpaste with it included. This is a time wasting excercise. Is he here or interviewed remotely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 (edited) On 4/14/2023 at 6:38 PM, cissolt said: 17% of 5 year olds have tooth decay, how many 5 year olds is that? And we are 'treating' 85000 people? Get better recruitment agencies to hire dentists and reinstate school dentists. Sack a few civil servants to pay for it. Preschool and primary targeted action would be money better spent. Is this another dead cat story? How about give the school dentist a bonus for each tooth they filled or took out (but don't take the teeth out without filling them a few times first - ££££s). Our school dentist had a fancy sports car and a big fuck off house on Bradda Head and took world cruises. I've got a head full of fillings and gaps where healthy teeth were taken out because of "overcrowding". Edited April 18, 2023 by Barlow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Barlow said: How about give the school dentist a bonus for each tooth they filled or took out (but don't take the teeth out without filling them a few times first - ££££s). Our school dentist had a fancy sports car and a big fuck off house on Bradda Head and took world cruises. I've got a head full of fillings and gaps where healthy teeth were taken out because of "overcrowding". My school dentist "retired" to South Africa, although I'm more inclined to believe that he was offered a position in interrogation for the South African Secret Police... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 When is this going ahead? I want better teeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 When the new water purification plant was built up by the college the fluoridation machinery was purchased and fitted much to the surprise of people who new. As we had not long had a modertorium on the fluoride additive and had been kicked out yet again, they kept it quite as I imagine it was non to cheap. But in them there days we were awash with money, so it has been sitting there kicking its heels quietly, it is not like you just have to throw a bucket full of fluoride into the reservoir. This is a poison that has to be precisely measured and considering it will be the MUA running the plant forgive me if I have some misgivings and as stated before what is 17% of 5 year old children in a population of 81,000. By that age I would imagine all must be attending school so precise numbers must be easy to hand or is that why the percentage has been used. Fag packet workings, around 782 children at 5 yrs 17%=131. So dose 81,000 to save 131, bit like king Herod not sure which kid to kill but if we go for all the under two's we should get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 On 4/15/2023 at 12:12 AM, AcousticallyChallenged said: As is pointed out in your link, fluoridation has been the norm in Birmingham for example, since 1964. This new act seems more about streamlining bureaucracy, rather than some underhanded attempt to fluoridate. so whats tooth decay numbers like in birmingham compared to here ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 43 minutes ago, WTF said: so whats tooth decay numbers like in birmingham compared to here ? https://bfsweb.org/download/1399/benefits-of-fluoridation/14pKaIyAZbTPp6K6f3USVroFqBaVsTW40/Fifty years of water fluoridation in Birmingham 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Dirty Buggane said: This is a poison that has to be precisely measured What’s your definition of a poison here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jarndyce said: What’s your definition of a poison here? Something he doesn't like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Something he doesn't like. It's accurate to be fair. But only if he also calls most other things poison. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 12 minutes ago, HeliX said: It's accurate to be fair. But only if he also calls most other things poison. Many things are harmful if consumed in excess. Doesn't make them poisons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Many things are harmful if consumed in excess. Doesn't make them poisons. From a biologist's definition of "poison" it does! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 16 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Many things are harmful if consumed in excess. Doesn't make them poisons. but as our water consumption isn't regulated how can it be dosed to suit everyone ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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