Non-Believer Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 18 minutes ago, Banker said: New progressive tax policy is coming out in December with higher earners paying more apparently, about time! Progressive taxation in IoMG vernacular is usually regressive taxation in anybody else's... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Progressive taxation in IoMG vernacular is usually regressive taxation in anybody else's... Let’s see what Allison & treasury comes out with but a new policy to cover future funding is promised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, Banker said: Let’s see what Allison & treasury comes out with but a new policy to cover future funding is promised images.mp4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Maybe it'll be a new, high-tech scam to exploit the current VAT agreement....Digital Films or something.... It worked last time....for a while 🤭 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesypeas Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 4 hours ago, Gladys said: There is a difference between IOMG offering free parking on their premises to employees, and employees parking on other premises (DBC's) whose owner now wants to introduce a charge? It is down to the employer how they want to balance parking charges between all their employees which is a different matter to whether the owner of land wishes to introduce a charge. ETA not sure why this is confusing, the Police and DBC are separate organisations, not even in the same camp. Gladys. Are you happy with Govt employees getting free parking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Govt depts need to start to be moved out of Douglas town. They're 30% of the morning jams. Most of them are not customer facing...rent sea terminal to proper businesses etc. Free up shit loads of parking and let Douglas businesses (especially retail) get on with what they're good at...bringing money in. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 18 minutes ago, cheesypeas said: Gladys. Are you happy with Govt employees getting free parking? No, but that is not the issue. A landowner has decided it wants to charge people who park on its land. How the employer, whose staff have habitually parked there, deals with it is not for the landowner. Its a completely different issue. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said: Govt depts need to start to be moved out of Douglas town. They're 30% of the morning jams. Most of them are not customer facing...rent sea terminal to proper businesses etc. Free up shit loads of parking and let Douglas businesses (especially retail) get on with what they're good at...bringing money in. They suggested doing it 30-odd years ago with a view to boosting the economies of other areas, unrest and the circulation of petitions against within Govt was the result. Proposal sank without trace, big lobby is the CS 😉. Nearest thing to it happening was components of DEFA getting moved to St John's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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offshoremanxman Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Gladys said: No, but that is not the issue. A landowner has decided it wants to charge people who park on its land. How the employer, whose staff have habitually parked there, deals with it is not for the landowner. Its a completely different issue. Yes Douglas Council can’t possibly have done anything wrong hey Glady’s? Several councillors have proposed better ideas just using parking discs (free) rather than charging. Or here’s a really radical idea. Let the police police the parking in the area (it’s part their job after all) with a disc system and they just book those who are over on their disc? They are the police after all. I assume then though the fines would go to Treasury not generate fees for DBC. Edited April 28, 2023 by offshoremanxman 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 1 hour ago, offshoremanxman said: Yes Douglas Council can’t possibly have done anything wrong hey Glady’s? Several councillors have proposed better ideas just using parking discs (free) rather than charging. Or here’s a really radical idea. Let the police police the parking in the area (it’s part their job after all) with a disc system and they just book those who are over on their disc? They are the police after all. I assume then though the fines would go to Treasury not generate fees for DBC. Yes, there are other ways, as you say, and giving the police permits is one option. I am not saying DBC can do no wrong, just that there are two different issues at play. What if it was another employer whose staff used the car park? How would the issue be addressed then? Quite honestly, what should have happened is there should have been a conversation between the two parties and a practical solution found. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshoremanxman Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Gladys said: Quite honestly, what should have happened is there should have been a conversation between the two parties and a practical solution found. Yes that’s a theme with DBC though isn’t it. Not engaging with anyone and just doing what they want to do when numerous other better or more practical options exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, Gladys said: Yes, there are other ways, as you say, and giving the police permits is one option. I am not saying DBC can do no wrong, just that there are two different issues at play. What if it was another employer whose staff used the car park? How would the issue be addressed then? Quite honestly, what should have happened is there should have been a conversation between the two parties and a practical solution found. Gladys whatever you say Offshore will disagree if it’s DBC or government even if it was free parking for everyone everywhere! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 1 hour ago, offshoremanxman said: Yes Douglas Council can’t possibly have done anything wrong hey Glady’s? Several councillors have proposed better ideas just using parking discs (free) rather than charging. Or here’s a really radical idea. Let the police police the parking in the area (it’s part their job after all) with a disc system and they just book those who are over on their disc? They are the police after all. I assume then though the fines would go to Treasury not generate fees for DBC. I'm not sure why anyone should think it's OK to park for free. If the police want to provide free parking then they should rent the area and maintain it themselves. Why should DBC provide this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 25 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said: Yes that’s a theme with DBC though isn’t it. Not engaging with anyone and just doing what they want to do when numerous other better or more practical options exist. They have been planning this for years. Suddenly its a surprise to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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