reptar Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Obviously the content of the lessons themselves is important but of almost equal importance is who is doing the teaching. Perhaps I'm old skool (ha!) but I prefer kids to be taught by, you know, qualified teachers. Rather than the schools throwing the doors open and allowing anyone who fancies a go at 'teaching' to trundle in and have a try. Especially on such an important, sensitive, subject. No-one who is not a qualified teacher should be taking classes in anything, but particularly sex education. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the shred Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Absolutely agree reptar . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 27 minutes ago, reptar said: Obviously the content of the lessons themselves is important but of almost equal importance is who is doing the teaching. Perhaps I'm old skool (ha!) but I prefer kids to be taught by, you know, qualified teachers. Rather than the schools throwing the doors open and allowing anyone who fancies a go at 'teaching' to trundle in and have a try. Especially on such an important, sensitive, subject. No-one who is not a qualified teacher should be taking classes in anything, but particularly sex education. Teachers are likely to be less qualified in sex education than specialists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reptar Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 hour ago, HeliX said: Teachers are likely to be less qualified in sex education than specialists. Is it really specialists that have been going in then? Genuine question because it doesn't sound like they are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, reptar said: Is it really specialists that have been going in then? Genuine question because it doesn't sound like they are. Anyone delivering RSE will have been trained to deliver RSE. If you mean the subject of (part) of the disjointed QE2 complaint, that was a "drop-down day" which isn't a sex education lesson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 4 hours ago, WTF said: sex education used to be just about the process of reproduction ( biology really ) now it seems its about who wants what up their arse and how far to shove it. Not sure I would have put it quite so crudely myself but in essence you are right. I and my peers were taught about reproduction. No putting condoms on wooden dildos or philosophical discussions about sex being different from gender etc. There just wasn’t time for it. School hours are finite. Greater emphasis was placed on mathematics, English, geography etc. Quite rightly and more useful within the time constraints, in my opinion. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newaccount Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) If you stick your head in the sand long enough, a nonce will eventually penetrate you from behind. I think it's important to educate young people Edited October 3, 2023 by newaccount 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 42 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Not sure I would have put it quite so crudely myself but in essence you are right. I and my peers were taught about reproduction. No putting condoms on wooden dildos or philosophical discussions about sex being different from gender etc. There just wasn’t time for it. School hours are finite. Greater emphasis was placed on mathematics, English, geography etc. Quite rightly and more useful within the time constraints, in my opinion. Can't argue with results.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meoir Shee Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 55 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Not sure I would have put it quite so crudely myself but in essence you are right. I and my peers were taught about reproduction. No putting condoms on wooden dildos or philosophical discussions about sex being different from gender etc. There just wasn’t time for it. School hours are finite. Greater emphasis was placed on mathematics, English, geography etc. Quite rightly and more useful within the time constraints, in my opinion. The under-18 conception rate has decreased for 13 years running. Bloody facts getting in the way of anecdotes again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newaccount Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 It's not just conception. It's STI's, consent, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, HeliX said: Can't argue with results.... Education being but a small part ( sorry I can’t alter the text), anyway :- Why Are UK Teen Pregnancy Rates Dropping? Nicky Broyd | Disclosures | 18 July 2018 In the last decade the number of teenage pregnancies in England and Wales has fallen by 55% to a record low. According to the latest statistics (from 2016) the under-18 conception rate was down to 18.9 conceptions per thousand women aged 15 to 17. In 1969 the under-18 conception rate was 47.1. The British Pregnancy Advisory Service, bpas, said Scotland and Northern Ireland have also seen significant declines in teenage pregnancies. Research The research was conducted by YouGov and bpas which has published the findings in a new report, Social media, SRE and Sensible Drinking: Understanding the Dramatic Decline In Teenage Pregnancy. YouGov conducted four online focus groups with 16 to 18-year-olds, alongside a diary in which the young people documented their day-to-day lives over the course of 4 days, including a weekend. The results of the focus groups were then used to inform a demographically weighted quantitative survey of 1,004 16 to 18-year-olds which was conducted online. Possible Reasons The research was commissioned because there is no clear consensus about the reason or reasons for the decline in teenage pregnancies. The bpas report has identified what it sees as some of the main factors: Social media – relationships, social and sexual, are increasingly experienced online. The research found those who socialised more in person with their friends or partner were more likely to be sexually active suggesting low levels of face to face interaction may be linked to falling teenage pregnancy rates. Family focus – today's young people appear more family orientated viewing time with their family as more important than time with friends (33% vs 27%) impacting upon opportunities for sexual relationships. Low alcohol intake – those surveyed were drinking less than previous generations and nearly a quarter (24%) said they never drank alcohol. Teenagers who consumed alcohol at lower levels were less likely to have engaged in sexual activity. Life prospects – young people felt a pregnancy at a young age could disrupt their academic and career aspirations and interfere with their hopes and plans for a good quality of life. Education – The Teenage Pregnancy Strategy, which ran from 1999 until 2010, emphasised improved sex and relationships education (SRE) and access to effective contraception. Those young people who rated their SRE as good were less likely to have had sex than those who rated it as poor (26% vs 42%). However, most young people questioned for the survey had an overwhelmingly negative view of the SRE they received. The current government is proposing mandatory SRE from September 2019. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDave Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 hour ago, The Voice of Reason said: Not sure I would have put it quite so crudely myself but in essence you are right. I and my peers were taught about reproduction. No putting condoms on wooden dildos or philosophical discussions about sex being different from gender etc. There just wasn’t time for it. School hours are finite. Greater emphasis was placed on mathematics, English, geography etc. Quite rightly and more useful within the time constraints, in my opinion. Well i can’t comment for you and your schoolmates. I am however glad to report that I have spent far more time in my adult life having sex, than thinking about trigonometry or rock formations. There have obviously been times where sex and trigonometry have collided. Those were good days. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, CrazyDave said: Well i can’t comment for you and your schoolmates. I am however glad to report that I have spent far more time in my adult life having sex, than thinking about trigonometry or rock formations. There have obviously been times where sex and trigonometry have collided. Those were good days. Yes and I am glad to report that I have spent more time in my adult life eating and listening to music, watching TV etc than thinking about algebra and past participles. Your point being? Edited October 3, 2023 by The Voice of Reason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDave Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Yes and I am glad to report that I have spent more time in my adult life eating and listening to music, watching TV etc than thinking about algebra and past participles. Your point being? I can’t work out if past participles is a typo for past participants? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, CrazyDave said: I can’t work out if past participles is a typo for past participants? No it’s not. Easier to remember 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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