Josem exposes QE2 drag queen photos

[Banker]

Report issued, Gef will provide detailed analysis later

https://gef.im/news/education/rse-lessons-to-resume-38566/?fbclid=IwAR3ulkEmwzEyWCOQ3_ika4kjNySFHD0k0e4A3mQHKuoa0NWm32DxDV2vleQ

[Gladys]

1 hour ago, Banker said:

Report issued, Gef will provide detailed analysis later

https://gef.im/news/education/rse-lessons-to-resume-38566/?fbclid=IwAR3ulkEmwzEyWCOQ3_ika4kjNySFHD0k0e4A3mQHKuoa0NWm32DxDV2vleQ

Surprised you didn't think that the Department should start working with teachers now rather than wait until September after their jollies. 

[Manx Resident]

In the UK a group of parents are apparently taking a class action lawsuit against the government for it’s sex education programme. So, I wonder if this has influenced DESC to postpone delivery until 2024?.

[manxman1980]

38 minutes ago, Manx Resident said:

In the UK a group of parents are apparently taking a class action lawsuit against the government for it’s sex education programme. So, I wonder if this has influenced DESC to postpone delivery until 2024?.

It definitely won't be a class action lawsuit as they don't exist in the UK.

Either this is more twisted news from the USA or someone has used the wrong term.

[John Wright]

19 minutes ago, manxman1980 said:

It definitely won't be a class action lawsuit as they don't exist in the UK.

Either this is more twisted news from the USA or someone has used the wrong term.

Wrong term. UK does have class actions in the Competition Court. A class action elsewhere in UK is called a group action.

[ADELE]

At least the parents and teachers will have some input and suitable age will be a consideration.

[piebaps]

Whatever they do, it needs to be quicker. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/child-sex-offender-described-as-monster-jailed-for-additional-five-years/

"During sentencing the court was told the youngster had reported the abuse last year following a lesson about puberty at their school – revelations their mother described as ‘heartbreaking’."

There are potentially victims of abuse out there  who don't appreciate what's happened to them and this ridiculous suspension of lessons at the whim of a small number of religious extremists is just making it worse.

Never in the field of human education has so much harm been done by a few gay-bashing bible botherers.

 

[Roger Mexico]

1 hour ago, piebaps said:

Whatever they do, it needs to be quicker. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/child-sex-offender-described-as-monster-jailed-for-additional-five-years/

"During sentencing the court was told the youngster had reported the abuse last year following a lesson about puberty at their school – revelations their mother described as ‘heartbreaking’."

There are potentially victims of abuse out there  who don't appreciate what's happened to them and this ridiculous suspension of lessons at the whim of a small number of religious extremists is just making it worse.

Never in the field of human education has so much harm been done by a few gay-bashing bible botherers.

In fact they don't seem to intend to restart till next year.  In the Manx Radio piece Edge 'says'[1]:

My Department is considering the report and will work with schools from September to ensure that necessary changes are made and a clear plan is developed to inform the most appropriate way forward to resume delivery of RSE in early 2024

So it looks like schoolchildren will have been a whole year without Relationships and Sex Education (RSE).  All because one or two parents were hysterical (to be polite) over a school lesson that turned out not to be an RSE anyway. 

And as most child sexual abuse takes place in the home, maybe we should be thinking about whether giving parents the power to stop their children being so educated is a good idea.  After all we don't give them the right to withdraw their kids from other lessons, if you allow that, why not let the anti-vaxxers keep their  kids out of biology?

It's worth saying that this applies as much to the relationship parts of RSE as the sex ones.  The sort of controlling parents who want to dictate every part of their children's education may also be the sort who provide examples of toxic relationships that can be perpetuated down the generations.

 

[1]  The official press release only gives the first sentence of the 'quote' in the Manx Radio article, which is odd.

[Gladys]

4 hours ago, piebaps said:

Whatever they do, it needs to be quicker. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/child-sex-offender-described-as-monster-jailed-for-additional-five-years/

"During sentencing the court was told the youngster had reported the abuse last year following a lesson about puberty at their school – revelations their mother described as ‘heartbreaking’."

There are potentially victims of abuse out there  who don't appreciate what's happened to them and this ridiculous suspension of lessons at the whim of a small number of religious extremists is just making it worse.

Never in the field of human education has so much harm been done by a few gay-bashing bible botherers.

 

I am all for these topics to be taught in school in a sympathetic and age appropriate manner.  Age appropriateness is something abusers do not understand.

 

[Shake me up Judy]

5 minutes ago, Gladys said:

I am all for these topics to be taught in school in a sympathetic and age appropriate manner.  Age appropriateness is something abusers do not understand.

 

But they haven't been taught in an age appropriate manner. RSE has been used to promote and push a diversity and Woke agenda to young kids. That's the issue. It's something that has been creeping into the school syllabus over recent years.

[HeliX]

29 minutes ago, Shake me up Judy said:

But they haven't been taught in an age appropriate manner. RSE has been used to promote and push a diversity and Woke agenda to young kids. That's the issue. It's something that has been creeping into the school syllabus over recent years.

Given that the RSE curriculum is public, could you highlight the parts you think are "pushing a diversity and woke agenda" in a non-age appropriate manner?

[Gladys]

33 minutes ago, Shake me up Judy said:

But they haven't been taught in an age appropriate manner. RSE has been used to promote and push a diversity and Woke agenda to young kids. That's the issue. It's something that has been creeping into the school syllabus over recent years.

How do.you know that us the case other than the hysterical reporting at the time? 

In any case, what is wrong about teaching kids of any age that people are different, but differences aren't something to fear but to be understood (ie diversity)? 

[La_Dolce_Vita]

25 minutes ago, Shake me up Judy said:

But they haven't been taught in an age appropriate manner. RSE has been used to promote and push a diversity and Woke agenda to young kids. That's the issue. It's something that has been creeping into the school syllabus over recent years.

Are you saying the pushing of diversity and a woke agenda is simply age inappropriate and that it should be taught when children are older? 

I am not really sure what you're objecting to and why. 

We could start from the position of saying that twenty-five years ago there no mention of homosexuality in schools, yet there was education and discussion about sex which went beyond sexual intercourse.  Something had to change.

[The Voice of Reason]

2 hours ago, Gladys said:

How do.you know that us the case other than the hysterical reporting at the time? 

In any case, what is wrong about teaching kids of any age that people are different, but differences aren't something to fear but to be understood (ie diversity)? 

Well yes. It’s a good thing that children are now being taught that people of the same sex can fall in love in the same way as heterosexual relationships. That certainly didn’t happen in my time at school so that’s a major step forward.

But the transgender issue is a whole different argument and I don’t think it has been handled at all well by those who wish it to gain acceptance.

 

Edited August 9, 2023 by The Voice of Reason

[Lxxx]

On 6/12/2023 at 2:55 PM, jackwhite said:

The UK?

There seems to a transphobic undertone worldwide atm along with anything remotely connected with it.

How are you defining 'transphobic'?