John Wright Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 As some people don’t believe that the shore height has waxed and waned over the years, here is Queens Prom opposite the Palace/Grasmere, before the prom was widened. Picture is just before WW1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Lots of seaweed as well. Mid 1890’s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Quite a lot of studies are showing that climate change is actually making Atlantic storms more powerful too. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/atlantic-hurricanes-are-more-likely-to-power-up-quickly-180983104/#:~:text=Between 1970 and 1990%2C 42.3,role in maximum intensification rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Even if they do remove the beach down to the depth it was 40 years ago when I remember a 4ft drop outside the palace the wall will go ahead as you can not have that kind of drop with only a three bar set of rails in these days of H&S. We were lucky in the old days as all the the people killed falling to their death on the beach were washed out to sea so nobody noticed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) Relatively informative post on MR this morning regarding the new Prom Wall. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/of-groynes-and-sea-walls-the-changing-face-of-douglas-beach/ Interesting to see the photo from 1977 with pretty much exactly the same issues currently being faced. 500m of 1.2m wall just past the War Memorial to the Empress. Honestly, what's the issue, unless you're a dwarf? Does £2000 per meter sound reasonable for a concrete wall? Edited November 21, 2023 by The Phantom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 No seem's inordinately expensive for a bit of rolling shuttering and concrete, ah but this is no ordinary shuttering this is with the manx multiplier. Why not faced with manx stone really up the cost/price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDave Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 55 minutes ago, The Phantom said: 500m of 1.2m wall just past the War Memorial to the Empress. Honestly, what's the issue, unless you're a dwarf? Which will then go the full length of the prom. Planning is already approved all the way to the Sea Terminal. An ugly and pointless waste of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 2 hours ago, The Phantom said: Relatively informative post on MR this morning regarding the new Prom Wall. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/of-groynes-and-sea-walls-the-changing-face-of-douglas-beach/ Interesting to see the photo from 1977 with pretty much exactly the same issues currently being faced. 500m of 1.2m wall just past the War Memorial to the Empress. Honestly, what's the issue, unless you're a dwarf? Does £2000 per meter sound reasonable for a concrete wall? Whenever I see old pictures from this era all I see are the cars. I think I see a Datsun 120Y and an Austin (or Wolsey) Princess. I hope they weren't damaged by the stones Is it me or is the beach up the wall level? There was some geezer on the moanin line said that never happened until the groins were removed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Whenever I see old pictures from this era all I see are the cars. I think I see a Datsun 120Y and an Austin (or Wolsey) Princess. I hope they weren't damaged by the stones Is it me or is the beach up the wall level? There was some geezer on the moanin line said that never happened until the groins were removed Cars before my time. Mid 80s onwards I'd probably geek out similarly. Beach does indeed look pretty level. That was my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 On 11/14/2023 at 8:11 PM, John Wright said: As some people don’t believe that the shore height has waxed and waned over the years, here is Queens Prom opposite the Palace/Grasmere, before the prom was widened. Picture is just before WW1 Council should have done something about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Happier diner said: Whenever I see old pictures from this era all I see are the cars. I think I see a Datsun 120Y and an Austin (or Wolsey) Princess. I hope they weren't damaged by the stones Is it me or is the beach up the wall level? There was some geezer on the moanin line said that never happened until the groins were removed I think your 120y is an 100a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 On 11/15/2023 at 12:26 AM, John Wright said: Lots of seaweed as well. Mid 1890’s And you can bet your bottom wotsit that the seaweed was collected and went on the farmland/pastures as fertiliser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Andy Onchan said: And you can bet your bottom wotsit that the seaweed was collected and went on the farmland/pastures as fertiliser. I’m not sure it did. Just washed in and out. Millions of sandflies. Wouldn’t want to sleep between the sheets after they’d been laid out on the beach to dry. Sand and flies. Yuk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 5 hours ago, The Phantom said: Cars before my time. Mid 80s onwards I'd probably geek out similarly. Beach does indeed look pretty level. That was my point. so what was done to lower the level of the beach ? i don't recall a wall being built ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, WTF said: so what was done to lower the level of the beach ? i don't recall a wall being built ??? It’s cyclical, a natural rhythm, up and down, over decades and centuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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