Regeneration of Peel

[Manx Bean]

I’m sorry Ms Kate Lord-Brennan, but don’t start talking me about this UNTIL you and Timbo deliver on your election promises to stop pumping raw shit into Peel Bay. Until that is resolved, talk to my hand cos ma face ain’t listening!

[2112]

Lovely report on the NPM this morning confirming that 36 Homes at Rearyt Aalin in Peel are to be demolished due to being substandard, when they were first built in 1992 by the islands favourite property developers, beloved by IOMG. Let’s see what IOMG actually does, whether it stays silent so as not to offend? If these properties were substandard what have the building control and environmental health done or did IOMG turn a blind eye? 

[Non-Believer]

11 minutes ago, 2112 said:

Let’s see what IOMG actually does, whether it stays silent so as not to offend? If these properties were substandard what have the building control and environmental health done or did IOMG turn a blind eye? 

Any accountability for anything will be long passed, they were built 31 years ago, people in the building, commissioning and inspection lines will have retired or died.

But if as I posted previously, the houses are claimed to be structurally sound then somebody needs to be making public exactly the grounds on which they need to be demolished. To include any deterioration due to neglect by either Peel Commissioners themselves or their tenants, the private properties adjacent and built around the same time do not appear to suffer the same problems?

If the houses are structurally sound then surely refurbishment to one degree or another must be an option?

[Broadcasterman]

13 minutes ago, Non-Believer said:

If the houses are structurally sound then surely refurbishment to one degree or another must be an option?

The new build cost with labour & materials at current levels must be at least £150K a unit plus all the groundwork needed to clear etc. It’s very hard to believe that if they’re structurally sound they can’t refurb them for less than £150K each. 

[Moghrey Mie]

Regeneration would probably cover Michael Street, the square and quays.

I wonder what people would like to see in these places.

[Shake me up Judy]

I wonder who's doing the rebuild ? Dandara ? Nothing would surprise me...

[Dirty Buggane]

The never ending building loop. Lets throw them up (shite) and in 30 years we get payed to knock them down and build an equally shite building to last another thirty years. You could not make this up, where was the clerk of works when all this was happening. Sunning themselves on an incredibly cheap holiday, in fact it might as well  have been free. Thats if the gov actually employed one, or was it no need to bother said the contractor we have one you can use. It will save you some cash.

[2112]

56 minutes ago, Dirty Buggane said:

The never ending building loop. Lets throw them up (shite) and in 30 years we get payed to knock them down and build an equally shite building to last another thirty years. You could not make this up, where was the clerk of works when all this was happening. Sunning themselves on an incredibly cheap holiday, in fact it might as well  have been free. Thats if the gov actually employed one, or was it no need to bother said the contractor we have one you can use. It will save you some cash.

Sadly it’s going to happen again, IOMG won’t say anything, certainly not CM Cannan, and non of the other idiots will want to rock the boat. What will happen is both the ratepayers of Peel will be paying, and the Commissioners will have to find alternative accommodation for those whose housing is being demolished. What are the chances of finding alternative accommodation? Certainly not in Peel, so they will have live elsewhere. I dread to think of the associated costs involved, high rental prices etc. 

[forestboy]

1 hour ago, Moghrey Mie said:

Regeneration would probably cover Michael Street, the square and quays.

I wonder what people would like to see in these places.

The East Quay is already fucked up. 

[english zloty]

If they are unsound then this should’ve been identified and planned for years ago. Writing to tenants is the last step in a usually very long journey. Just rebuilding them makes little sense in a world where there could be a new and larger development elsewhere and demolition after the event. Especially because Peel already has the longest waiting list for social housing (pro-rata) so needs to build additional anyway to be compliant with Housing Law. 

[offshoremanxman]

10 minutes ago, english zloty said:

If they are unsound then this should’ve been identified and planned for years ago. Writing to tenants is the last step in a usually very long journey. Just rebuilding them makes little sense in a world where there could be a new and larger development elsewhere and demolition after the event. Especially because Peel already has the longest waiting list for social housing (pro-rata) so needs to build additional anyway to be compliant with Housing Law. 

Are certain eco commissioners getting carried away and see this demolition as a chance to live out their eco fantasies for heat pumps, solar and other stuff that they can’t retro fit into these? 

[2112]

10 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said:

Are certain eco commissioners getting carried away and see this demolition as a chance to live out their eco fantasies for heat pumps, solar and other stuff that they can’t retro fit into these? 

Are the islands favourite developers going to accept ownership of this situation, whilst 30 years have lapsed since completion and 20 since the guarantee ran out? Surely they would be embarrassed by workmanship and the the proposed demolition? Perhaps they may offer to rebuild incorporating additional eco friendly utilities at no extra cost? I doubt it somehow. So it looks like taxpayers and ratepayers footing the bill.

I would reckon that Daffy and Co will be sticking their oar in as well, with eco demands. 

Edited June 8, 2023 by 2112

[Dr Beeching]

2 minutes ago, 2112 said:

Are the islands favourite developers going to accept ownership of this situation, whilst 30 years have lapsed since completion and 20 since the guarantee ran out? Surely they would be embarrassed by workmanship and the the proposed demolition? Perhaps they may offer to rebuild incorporating additional eco friendly utilities at no extra cost? I doubt it somehow. So it looks like taxpayers and ratepayers footing the bill.

Of course not. 

 

These things are builld down to a price rather than up to a standard. 

[offshoremanxman]

Just now, 2112 said:

Are the islands favourite developers going to accept ownership of this situation, whilst 30 years have lapsed since completion and 20 since the guarantee ran out? Surely they would be embarrassed by workmanship and the the proposed demolition?

Is that a serious statement? Dandara won’t give a shit. As you say they’re at least 20 years out of guarantee you can’t make a developer responsible for life for anything it puts up. The commissioners should have acted years ago if there were any issue. But as they’re commissioners they won’t have as they’re useless.

[Manxman2000]

Regeneration of Peel, not possible. knock it down and start again.  come to think of it do the same with Port st Mary and Castletown.