Roxanne Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Dirty Buggane said: Lloyds did to the island what ramsey bakery did to the isle of man, bought up up the small independent bakery's (a travesty in my own mind) then proceeded to consolidate the shops gradualy reducing the number to what we have. Have always gone to to the independents and ironically looks like that is going to be the only choice. It was a travesty. The whole thing was very underhand. They also targeted a lot of the older chemists, the ones with older pharmacists who were persuaded into early retirement. I remember, at the time, many of us stating that it felt like dodgy practice and that it could end in tears. We weren't wrong. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Not much different that what appears to have happened with a major car sales and service outlet , probably received government money , quickly put all the smaller franchises out of business , tried to to monopolise the entire car sales market , and now sold out to a dutch company , it would be good to find out if any government money was put in at the start and following the onward sale of the business , is it repayable ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Lamb Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 9 hours ago, Omobono said: Not much different that what appears to have happened with a major car sales and service outlet , probably received government money , quickly put all the smaller franchises out of business , tried to to monopolise the entire car sales market , and now sold out to a dutch company , it would be good to find out if any government money was put in at the start and following the onward sale of the business , is it repayable ? Don't you pay half each when you go Dutch? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 19 hours ago, wrighty said: Why does a town the size of Ramsey need 3 branches of the same pharmacy? greed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 20 hours ago, wrighty said: Why does a town the size of Ramsey need 3 branches of the same pharmacy? It obviously doesn't need three branches of the same one as recent events have shown. But with 23 community pharmacies on the Island that's one for every 3,650 or so inhabitants, so 3 would cover about 11,000, which is roughly the population of Ramsey and the adjacent parishes. The 23 are equivalent to around 27 per 100,000 inhabitants, which is around average for OECD countries: though a bit higher than the UK. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 26 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: It obviously doesn't need three branches of the same one as recent events have shown. Precisely. Three pharmacies is fine for Ramsey: three branches of Lloyds and no alternatives - not so much. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted June 14, 2023 Author Share Posted June 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Jarndyce said: Precisely. Three pharmacies is fine for Ramsey: three branches of Lloyds and no alternatives - not so much. it looks like it will 0 branches of lloyds in the coming months so hopefully someone will step up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_manx Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 15 minutes ago, WTF said: it looks like it will 0 branches of lloyds in the coming months so hopefully someone will step up Is there money to be made in this...Aren't they expected to charge a fixed price per medication. Since I assume that most of the medications will cost more than what we pay , do they charge the extra to manxcare ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: It obviously doesn't need three branches of the same one as recent events have shown. But with 23 community pharmacies on the Island that's one for every 3,650 or so inhabitants, so 3 would cover about 11,000, which is roughly the population of Ramsey and the adjacent parishes. The 23 are equivalent to around 27 per 100,000 inhabitants, which is around average for OECD countries: though a bit higher than the UK. I would have thought it would be higher for France, they seem to be every other store with their funky green illuminated cross. I wouldn't have thought Greece would be such a sickly nation either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 44 minutes ago, mad_manx said: Is there money to be made in this...Aren't they expected to charge a fixed price per medication. Since I assume that most of the medications will cost more than what we pay , do they charge the extra to manxcare ? I remember speaking to a Pharmacist along these lines (who was bought out by Lloyds). Apparently the Pharmacy has to stump up the cost of purchasing medication. It is then refunded by I'm assuming now Manxcare. However the delay between the refund can run into months. It was becoming unviable from a credit point of view for a Mum & Pop style Pharmacy to be able to fund this and naturally a large group would be better able to cope with such delays to cashflow. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 19 minutes ago, The Phantom said: I wouldn't have thought Greece would be such a sickly nation either. Don't believe everything you read about the mediterranean diet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 20 hours ago, Omobono said: Not much different that what appears to have happened with a major car sales and service outlet , probably received government money , quickly put all the smaller franchises out of business , tried to to monopolise the entire car sales market , and now sold out to a dutch company , it would be good to find out if any government money was put in at the start and following the onward sale of the business , is it repayable ? We don't do sensible contracts LoL 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 6 hours ago, The Phantom said: I would have thought it would be higher for France, they seem to be every other store with their funky green illuminated cross. I wouldn't have thought Greece would be such a sickly nation either. I must say I'd noticed the same omnipresence of green crosses when I was in Greece and this article from 2014 explains the situation there - you'll notice that the number of pharmacies per population has dropped quite a bit since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted June 14, 2023 Author Share Posted June 14, 2023 6 hours ago, The Phantom said: I remember speaking to a Pharmacist along these lines (who was bought out by Lloyds). Apparently the Pharmacy has to stump up the cost of purchasing medication. It is then refunded by I'm assuming now Manxcare. However the delay between the refund can run into months. It was becoming unviable from a credit point of view for a Mum & Pop style Pharmacy to be able to fund this and naturally a large group would be better able to cope with such delays to cashflow. why don't manxdon'tcare just open their own pharmacies and then there are no delays in paying or shortage of drugs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, WTF said: why don't manxdon'tcare just open their own pharmacies and then there are no delays in paying or shortage of drugs. It's easier to stitch up the private sector to do it on the cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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