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This might not be the right thread. But if you wanted an example of how rich/able to lose loads of money you need to be to be an early adopter of some of these stupid new technologies then here it is.

Electric vehicles are developing at such a pace that anything a few years old is pants in comparison to a new one.

Hydrogen/synthetic fuels for the win anyway.

 

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55 minutes ago, Asthehills said:

This might not be the right thread. But if you wanted an example of how rich/able to lose loads of money you need to be to be an early adopter of some of these stupid new technologies then here it is.

Electric vehicles are developing at such a pace that anything a few years old is pants in comparison to a new one.

Hydrogen/synthetic fuels for the win anyway.

 

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A fool and his money is soon parted. 

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1 hour ago, Asthehills said:

This might not be the right thread. But if you wanted an example of how rich/able to lose loads of money you need to be to be an early adopter of some of these stupid new technologies then here it is.

Electric vehicles are developing at such a pace that anything a few years old is pants in comparison to a new one.

Hydrogen/synthetic fuels for the win anyway.

But hydrogen and synthetic fuels are by definition less efficient than electric vehicles, because you need to use the electricity for their manufacture.  Of course they do have the advantage of being more storable.  But I can't see the logic of saying that people who go for a new(ish) technology are fools - and then advocating choosing even newer ones instead.

As for Tesla prices they seem have been continuously changing recently.  Make a big splash about cuts and then quietly sneak them back up seems to be the plan.  So I wouldn't predict the future of the entire industry from a single dealer offer.

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1 hour ago, Roger Mexico said:

But hydrogen and synthetic fuels are by definition less efficient than electric vehicles, because you need to use the electricity for their manufacture.  Of course they do have the advantage of being more storable.  But I can't see the logic of saying that people who go for a new(ish) technology are fools - and then advocating choosing even newer ones instead.

As for Tesla prices they seem have been continuously changing recently.  Make a big splash about cuts and then quietly sneak them back up seems to be the plan.  So I wouldn't predict the future of the entire industry from a single dealer offer.

No one wants the old ones as they have serious reliability issues. Let's face it, they are American. 

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1 hour ago, Roger Mexico said:

But hydrogen and synthetic fuels are by definition less efficient than electric vehicles, because you need to use the electricity for their manufacture.  Of course they do have the advantage of being more storable.  But I can't see the logic of saying that people who go for a new(ish) technology are fools - and then advocating choosing even newer ones instead.

As for Tesla prices they seem have been continuously changing recently.  Make a big splash about cuts and then quietly sneak them back up seems to be the plan.  So I wouldn't predict the future of the entire industry from a single dealer offer.

Synthetic fuels can just go in your normal car that you already have.  Hardly a new technology 

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14 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

What synthetic fuels are you talking about? 

https://blog.greenflag.com/2022/synthetic-fuel/#:~:text=That means drivers can use,any reduction in performance either.
 

IOMG should be all over this for TT and in fact for making us the world first fully synthetic fuel nation.

https://the-race.com/formula-1/why-f2-f3s-new-sustainable-fuel-is-more-extreme-than-f1s/#:~:text=F1 aspires for its sustainable,for that to be possible.

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3 minutes ago, Asthehills said:
21 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

What synthetic fuels are you talking about? 

https://blog.greenflag.com/2022/synthetic-fuel/#:~:text=That means drivers can use,any reduction in performance either.

So not really true synthetic fuels (which would involve removing carbon etc from the atmosphere), but more rebranded biomass, which may be even worse for the environment than fossil fuels.

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1 hour ago, Andy Onchan said:

Excuse me..... but that's what IOMG does best. Have you not been reading the news?

Very true. Should have said nuclear powers stations are way above even our budget.

Also we can't stop Victorian trams running out of control, what hope with a nuclear chain reaction?

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1 hour ago, Happier diner said:

Also we can't stop Victorian trams running out of control, what hope with a nuclear chain reaction?

Like the trams, we'd just deny it happened or at the very least delay the news. Just like Chernobyl.

Russia and the KGB have nothing on Manx civil servants.

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