NoTailT Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 26 minutes ago, Banker said: You may want to pay a fine but most of those sentenced are repeat offenders, don’t have any money as on benefits so they can’t pay any fine other than deductible from benefits over many years. I never understand that. Taxpayer pays criminals fine? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 So is this a knock-on effect from the UK prisons or is it a genuine local problem? The first we have litttle to no say in and it doesn't appear to be a short-term problem even if they start letting them out early. The second is more concerning given the leaders stated goal of increasing the island population if after 16 years in use the newish prison is already overflowing. Hopefully it is just a blip and not a long term problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 24 minutes ago, CallMeCurious said: So is this a knock-on effect from the UK prisons or is it a genuine local problem? The first we have litttle to no say in and it doesn't appear to be a short-term problem even if they start letting them out early. The second is more concerning given the leaders stated goal of increasing the island population if after 16 years in use the newish prison is already overflowing. Hopefully it is just a blip and not a long term problem. with the prescription/legalisation get round of canabis some of the regulars wont be going back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 6 hours ago, PeachTea said: The biggest problem when it comes to re-offending is the lack of support and opportunities once someone is released back into society. Offenders mostly dont have anywhere else to go bar a halfway home , employers wont take them on because they have a criminal record so end up looking for other ways to support themselves which more often that that is crime. Voila.. back inside again. No the biggest problem with re offending is that offenders are often scumbags. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sign in Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 (edited) Does the prison do vocational training schemes like bricklaying, plastering and joinery? The large building firms are always on the lookout for persons with experience in these areas and dare I say it - may rehabilitate them? (edited) New instructor available https://www.facebook.com/reel/952837499962227 Edited May 22 by Sign in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 The Isle of Man has plenty of land to create a boot camp. Build one and Send the miscreants to one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the shred Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 They have already go some cabins built apparently. It is better than letting people out earlier we have learned that lesson hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted May 23 Author Share Posted May 23 (edited) We know that prison doesn't work and yet we still keep sending people there. Lots more early intervention and preventative work needed. 'Whether for violence, public disorder or wage theft – there is no shortage of calls for more people to be sent to prison, and for longer. However, decades of research have shown that prison is the least effective place to rehabilitate offenders. Studies have indicated that a stint in prison increases the likelihood that inmates will reoffend.' Edited May 23 by Moghrey Mie 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the shred Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 The next court appearances of the 9 up for various drug related crimes has been put back so that is 9 cells in use, I don’t think any of them got bail but stand to be corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 On 5/22/2024 at 5:49 PM, NoTailT said: I never understand that. Taxpayer pays criminals fine? Unemployed drug dealer pays fine. Does this make the IOM Govt complicit in money laundering? But anyway, shit's going down at the prison. https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/four-people-injured-in-infraction-at-isle-of-man-prison-692409 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 17 minutes ago, The Phantom said: Unemployed drug dealer pays fine. Does this make the IOM Govt complicit in money laundering? But anyway, shit's going down at the prison. https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/four-people-injured-in-infraction-at-isle-of-man-prison-692409 Presumably further police legal action to follow for those inmates involved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Fill the jail, get fights. Who'd have thought it? Well done all involved! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Apparently the Prison has been screaming out for an extension to be built for a few years now, but no Govt funds allocated, hence the portacabin Plan B. It's all a bit stupid by the looks of it. Everyone I know or have met who works at the prison can't wait to get out of the place these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 14 minutes ago, 2112 said: Presumably further police legal action to follow for those inmates involved? They'll probably ask if any members of the public caught anything on their dashcams in about a month. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 51 minutes ago, The Phantom said: Unemployed drug dealer pays fine. Does this make the IOM Govt complicit in money laundering... Kinda does in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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