Cambon Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 20 minutes ago, ADELE said: How opinions change with time some years ago when Alf Cannon was in charge of the water board he was asked on talking heads, as it was then, about installing water meters and he replied very dismissively that it was out of the question as the meters would cost far too much to install. I remember this because I asked the question. If I remember correctly, he actually said that 80% of the cost of water was the cost of the infrastructure supplying it to the property. Not the cost of the water and processingit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malik Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Keyop said: I'm afraid it's probably my fault. I'm on a lead supply pipe, so I always run the tap down the sink for a while before filling the kettle to try and reduce my lead consumption. I'm probably not the only house like that. Maybe rather than fit water meters it would be cheaper for them to reduce consumption by installing plastic supply pipes up to the stop tap? Just what is the science on the potential poisoning from drinking water supplied by lead pipes and comparatively, plastic pipes. I cannot imagine it’s believable. There’s also mercury in fillings to consider and apparently, after kimchi has been well touted to westerners, Asian pickled vegetables are shortly going to be announced as ‘probably’ carcinogenic. Fortunately, death doesn’t worry me as a born again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxman1234 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 19 minutes ago, Cambon said: If I remember correctly, he actually said that 80% of the cost of water was the cost of the infrastructure supplying it to the property. Not the cost of the water and processingit. So in typical MU style, they are going to increase cost of the infrastructure to Enable them to charge more 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Manxman1234 said: So in typical MU style, they are going to increase cost of the infrastructure to Enable them to charge more Revenue harvesting. The squeeze continues, to fund growth. Of the Government. Edited July 1, 2023 by Non-Believer Typo 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 They need to be told where to get off. I'd bet that a lot of this supposed excessive consumption on the Island is being lost through their own infrastructure, but they have no idea how or where. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 21 minutes ago, woolley said: They need to be told where to get off. I'd bet that a lot of this supposed excessive consumption on the Island is being lost through their own infrastructure, but they have no idea how or where. It's a Govt operation though, not a privatised company subject to whatever regulation as per UK. As such they won't be told to get off, it will be voted through and imposed, in the same way as the smart electricity meters were/are, for better or worse. It's almost certainly about revenue in the long picture and will be a precursor to charging customers by volume used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Helmut Fromage Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 10 hours ago, Banker said: There’s a number of commercial water meters already in but doesn’t say where, hopefully at Pulrose!! Thanks Bob - Love your objective posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 10 hours ago, offshoremanxman said: They usually only do it to the border of your property leaving you to sort all the groundwork out to your indoor stop tap. Which is why I still have lead pipes. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 12 hours ago, Passing Time said: Or better still, just repair the current water infrastructure to prevent massive waste With what money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 10 hours ago, Cambon said: If I remember correctly, he actually said that 80% of the cost of water was the cost of the infrastructure supplying it to the property. Not the cost of the water and processingit. Yes, that's correct. Water itself is cheap. Maintaining hundreds and even thousands of Kms of pipes is not. You still need all the pipes I guess even if people used less water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 59 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Yes, that's correct. Water itself is cheap. Maintaining hundreds and even thousands of Kms of pipes is not. You still need all the pipes I guess even if people used less water. water is cheap ?? it's fucking free, it falls from the sky. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADELE Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Any MHK who votes for this will get a kicking at the next election remember what happened to John Houghton when the Toilet Tax reared it’s ugly head. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 4 hours ago, WTF said: water is cheap ?? it's fucking free, it falls from the sky. Well you should disconnect your supply and collect it yourself. You could save £100s.....or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Maybe if they started by mandating grey water harvesting on all new builds (domestic and commercial) with grants and recycling the waste water from IRIS for irrigation. You only have to look at RTC scrubbing pavements and watering hanging baskets with fresh drinkable water to realise there are plenty of ways to save/re-use water before resorting to an expensive experiment of metering. I wonder if they'll buy flouride-proof meters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted July 4, 2023 Author Share Posted July 4, 2023 9 hours ago, CallMeCurious said: Maybe if they started by mandating grey water harvesting on all new builds (domestic and commercial) with grants and recycling the waste water from IRIS for irrigation. You only have to look at RTC scrubbing pavements and watering hanging baskets with fresh drinkable water to realise there are plenty of ways to save/re-use water before resorting to an expensive experiment of metering. I wonder if they'll buy flouride-proof meters? Maybe but water meters are common in most European countries & mandatory . Why should a single household pay the same as a household of 6/7 with 4 cars & large garden 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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