We bought a boat but can't see what we paid for

[Max Power]

I remember that the SPCo allowed people to tour the new Ben my Chree in 1998, but this was pre 911 with all of the security overkill imposed on travel.

Imagine having to record all the names and addresses, search everyone who gets on board, keep an eye on them and then clear up after 20,000 or so nosy buggers have tramped all over the place.   

[John Wright]

4 hours ago, woolley said:

Well, yes, but the current debacle is with the contract placed in 2017 for the replacement vessels.

That’s for two boats. But those two should have been in the planning and ordering by 2005 latest. Both Labour and SNP screwed up fleet replacement. But then SNP went for buy local cronyism. Bit like Tories and Brexit really.

[Gizo]

On 7/13/2023 at 10:10 AM, The Phantom said:

I bet @P.K. would love a paisley suit and frilly shirt. 

More like rainbow colours 

[asitis]

Just get it in service and stop pissing about !

[Manxman1234]

4 minutes ago, asitis said:

Just get it in service and stop pissing about !

What will the entitled ones moan about them 😂

[Two-lane]

4 hours ago, Roger Mexico said:

Here you go:

http://www.tynwald.org.im/visit

Thanks, RM. I clicked on the link. I then clicked on the "scheduled sitting dates" link - and got 404'ed. The lights were on but no one was at home. Or maybe the whole of Tynwald has gone sub judice.

 

Edited to add: Is it not possible to run a cron job to check all the links on a website to make sure none of them leads to dead-ends? OK, all of Tynwakd is a dead-end.

Edited July 15, 2023 by Two-lane

[Roxanne]

7 hours ago, woolley said:

At least you could never get lost on the Ben. Not enough room.

Erm...

Nevermind

[Roxanne]

5 hours ago, Roger Mexico said:

http://www.tynwald.org.im/visit

The next MF night out.

You can organise it Roger. 😀

[Roxanne]

56 minutes ago, Two-lane said:

I then clicked on the "scheduled sitting dates" link - and got 404'ed

Or mebbe not...

[Two-lane]

9 minutes ago, Roxanne said:

Erm...

Nevermind

I sense there is an untold story behind the smiling emoji. Perhaps it is best to remain untold.

[Roxanne]

1 minute ago, Two-lane said:

I sense there is an untold story behind the smiling emoji. Perhaps it is best to remain untold.

It's not exciting in the slightest. Only that I regularly got lost on the Ben too. There's a common denominator here - and it's not the boats. They were all different. Even if they all look the same. To me. 😁

[Roger Mexico]

1 hour ago, Two-lane said:

Thanks, RM. I clicked on the link. I then clicked on the "scheduled sitting dates" link - and got 404'ed. The lights were on but no one was at home. Or maybe the whole of Tynwald has gone sub judice.

 

Edited to add: Is it not possible to run a cron job to check all the links on a website to make sure none of them leads to dead-ends? OK, all of Tynwakd is a dead-end.

The new Tynwald website is prone to 400-ing and 500-ing all the time.  The pages are there and will come back but the whole thing is incredibly flimsy and unreliable.  The same applies to when you try to find things on it, the results are strange if you get anything at all, but it's not even consistent in its errors or the results it produces.

Not sure it's due to poor programming or the inability of GTS to provide the support structure for it, but I've never known a website like it.  It's particularly bad at weekends for some reason.

[Itsmeee]

2 hours ago, Roxanne said:

Erm...

Nevermind

I lost a person on the Ben once, leading to the commencement of man overboard proceedings….fortunately they turned up just in time. 

[woolley]

5 hours ago, John Wright said:

That’s for two boats. But those two should have been in the planning and ordering by 2005 latest. Both Labour and SNP screwed up fleet replacement. But then SNP went for buy local cronyism. Bit like Tories and Brexit really.

Actually, there is nothing wrong with the sentiment of supporting local business and labour. I wouldn't condemn them for the principle, but you have to be realistic, and they weren't. Not rising to your routine nonsense about Brexit.

[John Wright]

29 minutes ago, woolley said:

Actually, there is nothing wrong with the sentiment of supporting local business and labour. I wouldn't condemn them for the principle, but you have to be realistic, and they weren't. Not rising to your routine nonsense about Brexit.

Which is why I identified what went on between the SNP and Fergusons as cronyism. And there’s no doubt that brexiteer Tories are all deeply involved in cronyism.