thommo2010 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 This thread is proof that the Manx will literally moan about anything. Oh no I'm not allowed to look at a ship boo hoo I'm so oppressed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 It's not looking at it I'm bothered about, it's more whether I can afford to use it ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Wonder who was invited aboard for this mornings little jolly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwhite Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Firstly, IOMG have messed up by having this invite only nonsense today. That said, this thread is mental, even by MF standards. Some have taken a sense of entitlement, a dash of ill informed posts, a sprinkle of looking for something to be raging about and a little hint of racism, to make it rather special. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeBrew Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 18 minutes ago, jackwhite said: Firstly, IOMG have messed up by having this invite only nonsense today. That said, this thread is mental, even by MF standards. Some have taken a sense of entitlement, a dash of ill informed posts, a sprinkle of looking for something to be raging about and a little hint of racism, to make it rather special. Yeah, maybe a little tone deaf given the kick off. But jeez - what is wrong with people? Any fully grown adult crying about not getting to have a skeet around the boat needs to get a life. Anyone lobbying their MHK about it needs to have a good hard look at themselves. And any MHK who is making something out of this needs to have a look at their priorities - it’s ridiculous. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 1 hour ago, asitis said: It's not looking at it I'm bothered about, it's more whether I can afford to use it ! If you could afford to use the existing ships, you can afford to use the new one. Same fares. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asthehills Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 1 hour ago, asitis said: It's not looking at it I'm bothered about, it's more whether I can afford to use it ! Prices haven’t changed and are really cheap if you book in advance, so I don’t see why not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadAsHell Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 On 7/6/2023 at 5:39 PM, Andy Onchan said: Anyone heard what's on the new 'menu'? I thought I read somewhere that an island-based chef has been appointed? I sincerely hope it's better than the BMC! Matty from 14 North rejigged the menu and uses manx produce when possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringy Rose Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 1 hour ago, StrangeBrew said: But jeez - what is wrong with people? Any fully grown adult crying about not getting to have a skeet around the boat needs to get a life. It’s more the way the Steamie can find the time for a lovely jolly round the bay for the MHKs and all the other limpets, but are far too busy when it comes to letting the peasants see what their money is paying for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Rushen Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 The bars will still close in Manx waters 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 54 minutes ago, jackwhite said: Firstly, IOMG have messed up by having this invite only nonsense today. A normal commercial company would have arranged a whole programme of events to show of their new product and encourage people to use it. It's not so much the invite-only thing, as there would have to some sort of formal do[1], it's the lack of other events. The only other things on offer are a chance for the plebs to watch the whole thing from a safe distance and a draw for 100 (it's not clear if they're free) foot passenger tickets on the "maiden service voyage, scheduled for later in the month". Now training will clearly be important, but given that one of the most important things for the staff to deal with is how they move large number of people about the boat, you'd think that 'meet the public' events would be a good way of doing that bit of it. And you'd assume have a programme for various groups to look it over: travel trade, club members. suppliers, corporate users - all the people who might bring you business or whose goodwill is useful. And maybe reach out to other groups with potential (schoolkids?). They do seem to have thrown together a press tour at last moment: though it mainly seems have comprised letting them wander round for a bit rather than supplying them with any information to pass on. Of course the Steam Packet has never been a normal commercial company and its purchase by the government (which ought to have made such communications even more desirable) has just led to a reinforcing of the corporate culture. Rather than trying to increase usage, there's the age-old assumption that people will just have to use their services and be grateful for whatever they're given. But someone has invented the aeroplane and people may simply choose not to go off (or come to) the Island at all. [1] Though even most of those won't be able to look around, this being restricted to a: small group of VIP guests including the Chief Minister, Treasury Minister, Board and Executive of Isle of Man Steam Packet Company and representatives of Hyundai Heavy Industries will be invited for a private tour of the vessel and to meet the captain. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 25 minutes ago, Major Rushen said: The bars will still close in Manx waters 😂 You could be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxman1234 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 3 hours ago, StrangeBrew said: Yeah, maybe a little tone deaf given the kick off. But jeez - what is wrong with people? Any fully grown adult crying about not getting to have a skeet around the boat needs to get a life. Anyone lobbying their MHK about it needs to have a good hard look at themselves. And any MHK who is making something out of this needs to have a look at their priorities - it’s ridiculous. Lots of sad little people about who believe entitled to everything also the same people would be the ones moaning if they turned up along with 84,000 other residents and had to wait in a queue to get on it plenty pics and videos or given it’s a bit they should buy a ticket and see it 😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 I think you've got the tone wrong here. People just want to see it and expectations are running high. Going on that video the spec looks fantastic, and I'm not usually given to hyperbole. Fingers crossed that things go well with her. If she's as good in service as she looks in port then we've bought a beauty. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelmutX Posted July 8, 2023 Author Share Posted July 8, 2023 42 minutes ago, Manxman1234 said: Lots of sad little people about who believe entitled to everything also the same people would be the ones moaning if they turned up along with 84,000 other residents and had to wait in a queue to get on it plenty pics and videos or given it’s a bit they should buy a ticket and see it 😂 I'll chime in here. We, ALL OF US, have guaranteed close to £100m on this new vessel. Yeah, MANXMAN1234.... close to £100m. WE FUND TREASURY. So, why do you think we are "entitled" to know what we have bought? Perhaps there are other mechanical/electrical/marine engineers on this Island (who pay taxes too BTW!). You think it should be a "black box"???? We pay they spend without showing off what could be a nice project. Also MANXMAN123-1/2, what about that dock being built??? we're paying for it and it's also gone way, way over budget. MANXMAN12-waddeva, it's be good to have a proper walk-thru of the new project. Perhaps organize a small team to do a detailed documentary (in parts perhaps)? Personally, It'd be very interesting to see the internal workings of a vessel this size, operation, engines, electronics, plumbing, structure, loading logistics AND even when out of water. I'd certainly like to see how the vessel is constructed and built and operated.... I'm sure there are may others too. Nuff said 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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