Zarley Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, Gladys said: One can only speculate as to why the name of the pilot has not yet been released, although their family is receiving support from the family liaison unit, or whatever they are called. It is this very tight management of information that anywhere else would very forthcoming that breeds speculation and suspicion. Maybe there are off-island family members they've not yet been able to contact? I don't think I'd want to find out about a loved one's demise via the BBC. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Just now, Zarley said: Maybe there are off-island family members they've not yet been able to contact? I don't think I'd want to find out about a loved one's demise via the BBC. Of course not, but you say that on the press release, surely, not just that the family is being supported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevster Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said: it’s easy to track who owned the plane Very true - but that doesn't tell you who the pilot was 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshoremanxman Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, kevster said: Very true - but that doesn't tell you who the pilot was I’m just saying if someone is jumping up and down claiming it’s all an IOM conspiracy then they can come to their own conclusions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said: I’m just saying if someone is jumping up and down claiming it’s all an IOM conspiracy then they can come to their own conclusions. I am not jumping up and down or alleging conspiracies, just pointing out the very poor information management that, despite saying don't speculate, will lead to speculation. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah 01 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) Coming to this story very late (apparently): so what happened? Plane crashes (unfortunate), deaths (even more unfortunate) but has a D-Notice been issued by the plods? Unless it was on a CIA extradition flight, 'Special forces' injection or even a jolly around the Rock - what's all the secrecy for? OK _ disregard all after - just read a report on BBC news site. Reasons seem pretty obvious. Edited July 19, 2023 by Utah 01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 42 minutes ago, Gladys said: I am not jumping up and down or alleging conspiracies, just pointing out the very poor information management that, despite saying don't speculate, will lead to speculation. Whether the police say don't speculate or not isn't going to stop people speculating, I am unsure as to why anyone not connected with this incident would want to know who the pilot is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 33 minutes ago, Utah 01 said: Coming to this story very late (apparently): so what happened? Plane crashes (unfortunate), deaths (even more unfortunate) but has a D-Notice been issued by the plods? Unless it was on a CIA extradition flight, 'Special forces' injection or even a jolly around the Rock - what's all the secrecy for? What secrecy is there? there has been a plane crash it is being investigated to find out the circumstances, once that investigation has been concluded the details will be passed to the Coronor who may well instruct an inquest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshoremanxman Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, kevster said: Very true - but that doesn't tell you who the pilot was Just saying it’s been less than 48 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: I am unsure as to why anyone not connected with this incident would want to know who the pilot is. quite simply because we live on a small Island where "everyone knows everyone else*" and we care. We care. You may not understand that, I don't know. ETA: personally, I couldn't care less who it is (actually, I do, I just want to put my post into perspective) * this oft used statement is actually a load of bollocks. I've lived here all my life and these days I can walk the length of Strand Street on a Saturday afternoon and not see anybody I know 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 4 hours ago, P.K. said: Hardly strange. After all, you must have got the idea from somewhere... I did, Einstein. I got the idea from those who have gone away then feel compelled to post disparaging crap about the Island on here. You know. The subject I was commenting on in the first place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 31 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: Whether the police say don't speculate or not isn't going to stop people speculating, I am unsure as to why anyone not connected with this incident would want to know who the pilot is. You are missing the point. I do not need or want to know who the poor unfortunate was who, presumably, died. My point is that the press releases could simply have said the identity will not be released until family members are notified or whatever reason. Perhaps they want to recover the body or some other reason. That would be thoughtfully managed communication, not just saying don't speculate then provide ill conceived information which will inevitably lead to the very thing the police don't want - speculation. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberttwatmunch Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: I am unsure as to why anyone not connected with this incident would want to know who the pilot is. Absolutely this. Is it just an IOM thing to be so interested? I really don’t get it. If and when someone I know well enough for it to have any sort of impact on my life unfortunately dies I find out very quickly through friends, family, colleagues etc. If I don’t learn of a death through my own social circle or contacts it is because it has absolutely no impact on my life. I wonder what it says about the state of someone’s mind that they feel they need to know who was involved and then try and draw some tenuous link back to the individual? Is it something to do with wanting to feel involved? Very strange Edited July 19, 2023 by Alberttwatmunch 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringy Rose Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gladys said: It is this very tight management of information that anywhere else would very forthcoming that breeds speculation and suspicion. It’s usually the family who determine when this information is released. And- at the risk of sounding like a stuck record- anyone who needs to know their friend/parent/sibling/partner/child/colleague has died will already know. So, yet again, it simply comes down to nosiness. Wanting to know, not needing to know. Edited July 19, 2023 by Ringy Rose 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, Alberttwatmunch said: Is it just an IOM thing to be so interested? I really don’t get it... Very strange. It used to be known as 'skeet', where certain locals would be wetting their pants to be first with the gossip so they could feel entitled telling everyone else their news. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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