WTF Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 3 hours ago, Two-lane said: So I see there being only two possibilities here: 1. He is stupid 2. He is lying Anyone got another possibility? BOTH of the above. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) If anyone is at a loose end this is worth a watch ! I would not seek to comment as I'm unsure where the actual truth lies, but would do a few good to consider the contents of this , especially those who would bankrupt this island using this as the driver ! Pollution, population, and covering the planet in concrete would be my concerns, and those should be addressed. Edited April 4 by asitis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 On 4/4/2024 at 6:50 AM, asitis said: If anyone is at a loose end this is worth a watch ! I would not seek to comment as I'm unsure where the actual truth lies, but would do a few good to consider the contents of this , especially those who would bankrupt this island using this as the driver ! Pollution, population, and covering the planet in concrete would be my concerns, and those should be addressed. Anyone who doubts climate change is an idiot. Anyone who doubts it due to man's activity is an idiot. IMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 (edited) 2 hours ago, Happier diner said: Anyone who doubts climate change is an idiot. Anyone who doubts it due to man's activity is an idiot. IMO I'm in the ' I don't understand enough of the science to be convinced either way camp ', there seems to be credible people who are all in to the assumption that climate change is man made, and there also seem to be credible people who are less convinced. The climate does appear to be changing, the full understanding of why is less clear to me. If that makes me an idiot then so be it ! What I am not into however is name calling those who seek to try and gain an understanding of both sides of the fence ! Edited April 6 by asitis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 2 hours ago, Happier diner said: Anyone who doubts climate change is an idiot. Anyone who doubts it due to man's activity is an idiot. IMO Sounds like you're singling-out humans. Anyone who thinks humans are solely responsible is an idiot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 44 minutes ago, asitis said: I'm in the ' I don't understand enough of the science to be convinced either way camp ', there seems to be credible people who are all in to the assumption that climate change is man made, and there also seem to be credible people who are less convinced. The climate does appear to be changing, the full understanding of why is less clear to me. If that makes me an idiot then so be it ! What I am not into however is name calling those who seek to try and gain an understanding of both sides of the fence ! Fair enough. Maybe I should have said that anyone who has seen the evidence but still refuses to accept it is an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 26 minutes ago, quilp said: Sounds like you're singling-out humans. Anyone who thinks humans are solely responsible is an idiot... Then I'll be an idiot. Because I think that it is solely due to human activity and nothing else. Yes, carbon dioxide levels have changed over millions of years. But they have gone up and down. There is now an exponential rise up, with no sign of any downs. Therefore I conclude it is die to human activity. So does anyone else with half a brain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dirty Buggane Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Look out he's got a graph. 😬 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 1 hour ago, Dirty Buggane said: Look out he's got a graph. 😬 I could replace the graph with words. It's gone frickin mental since about the start of the industrial revolution. But that would not illustrate it as well as the graph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Here's another for any numpty who doesnt get the first one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 16 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Here's another for any numpty who doesnt get the first one. The other thing that has had a vary similar trend is world population, which has just about doubled since 1960. In addition, nearly half the human population was born this century. That is the problem, not CO2. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the shred Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 There is no point in arguing, worrying or even thinking about it the MEA have in all probability bought the windmills, with what god only knows but that has never stopped them before. The 42 million, or what is left of it, will probably go towards this great plan after that well once we get an inspirational idea cost doesn’t seem to be a problem. Did Peggy get her expensive, how much ? roof, ssh a mere four million. Jessop should be a consultant on the windmill project he managed to build a very ugly, unsustainable building without any means to enter or exit 🤣 without any dissention from the people who ultimately will be paying for it for the foreseeable future and beyond. The MEA could learn from this a lesson there undoubtedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 34 minutes ago, Cambon said: The other thing that has had a vary similar trend is world population, which has just about doubled since 1960 Concreting over massive areas of land changes the amount of sunlight reflected. Each person at rest generates 100 watts of heat - much more when active. Save the planet - lie on the sofa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 1 hour ago, Cambon said: The other thing that has had a vary similar trend is world population, which has just about doubled since 1960. In addition, nearly half the human population was born this century. That is the problem, not CO2. And that is the essence of just about every existential problem we have. Far too many people, too few resources, particularly in the right place and too much by-product. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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